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Post by deadwoodgultch on Sept 12, 2016 11:44:43 GMT
A creek is generally larger than a stream. Seeps or springs generally form streams,streams feed creeks, or rivers. A creek is a finger of a river. In many cases the terms are used interchangeably. Rains and ground water affect many of the streams in the area being discussed.
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Post by yanmacca on Sept 12, 2016 11:48:40 GMT
Tom, I think that Martini stops at the stream and see's Benteen near another water course, now everyone thinks that Benteen watered at the morass, but if he is following Custer trail then we can say that Custer never went to the morass were the mules got stuck. Martini sounds positive that Benteen was at the creek were Custer watered.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Sept 12, 2016 11:51:39 GMT
Ian The morass that Steve and I visited is mostly formed from ground water(spring) and supplemented by, maybe Reno creek.
Regards, Tom
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Post by azranger on Sept 12, 2016 11:51:48 GMT
That day we started on Benteen's route but we were cut short because of the rain. I had my rain gear and the others bought cheap ponchos because we knew there was a chance of rain. Things get slick in rain and it is a harder go for the horses.
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Post by azranger on Sept 12, 2016 11:54:10 GMT
There you go Ian. Tom and I have a difference of the size relationship between stream and creek.
Steve
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Post by yanmacca on Sept 12, 2016 11:56:56 GMT
Thanks guys, the term "creek" it not used so much here in GB, the closest thing we would call it is a "brook"
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Sept 12, 2016 12:01:15 GMT
Steve, You are on your way to training, I am on my way to my house on a creek off of the Little Wicomico river,off of the Potomac river,off of the Chesapeake bay.
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Post by azranger on Sept 12, 2016 12:02:21 GMT
I don't think I have seen streams designated on maps but I believe in general it indicates flowing water rather than standing water such as a pond or lake.
I Googled stream v creek and you can choose your definition.
No wonder Martin was confused with English.
Steve
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Sept 12, 2016 12:04:01 GMT
A brook is a large stream here,some babble and could feed a creek!
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Sept 12, 2016 12:06:25 GMT
Good fun, I think anyone reading this may think we are all wet!
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Post by azranger on Sept 12, 2016 12:09:32 GMT
Here in northern Arizona we have Oak Creek which feeds into the Verde River. When I lived in New York we had brooks, creeks, and rivers. The Colorado river is about the size of Wappingers Creek where I lived and no where near the size of the Hudson river.
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Post by yanmacca on Sept 12, 2016 12:10:08 GMT
I creek now and again, usually after manual labour.
Oh so the term brook is universal then. I have lived all my life on the banks of the river Mersey, which is quite wide and goes in land about 40 miles. We are in the middle of having a new bridge built over the river, as the old bridge is creaking under the volume of traffic.
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Post by azranger on Sept 12, 2016 12:10:29 GMT
"A stream is a body of water with a current, confined within a bed and stream banks. Depending on its location or certain characteristics, a stream may be referred to as a branch, brook, beck, burn, creek, crick, gill (occasionally ghyll), kill, lick, mill race, rill, river, syke, bayou, rivulet, streamage, wash, run, or runnel."
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Post by mac on Sept 12, 2016 12:13:16 GMT
I found this an enjoyable read, it also has little twists on which way Custer rode and the notion that he simply road over the top of Weir point. If you open up the pictures, it gives you a great view of the area (if you look closely enough you may see someone who looks very much like AZ (Steve), but spend a little time reading the page as Donahue explains what he thought happened here. linkI quoted from this article earlier (somewhere) Ian and it is interesting, but he is holding the cards close to his chest as he is yet to publish (fair enough too!). I still think there is a tendency to predict Custer's route based on getting him to Ford B. I just doubt Weir Point. I could go for Cedar but I will point out that a route east of Sharpshooters comes out near enough to the outlet from Cedar. I am curious as to what AZ thinks about the route east of Sharpshooters. Cheers
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Post by yanmacca on Sept 12, 2016 12:14:59 GMT
Did you spot the AZ look a like?
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