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Post by yanmacca on Oct 24, 2015 11:41:28 GMT
Here is one to ponder, imagine if Custer saw from 3411 that Reno was being forced into the timber, which was possible to see from the bluffs even without field glasses, He would have realised that Reno’s position was being compromised and he had to help, now maybe he knew that it would be too late to back track and help him that way, so his only option was to try and alleviate the situation by doing a spoiling attack behind the village, this could be why he only sent one company to the ford (B), not with the intention to cross but to help Reno by threatening the Indians from behind, which would naturally draw Indians from Reno to block him, that would allow Reno to continue functioning in the valley while Custer waited on the high ground until Benteen arrived.
Yan.
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Post by quincannon on Oct 25, 2015 2:27:50 GMT
Ford B was a recon, pure and simple. Nothing else.
It is much better to dance with the devil you know (the backtrack route to Ford A then on to Reno) than the one you do not, and you don't even know if she can dance.
Work from the determined end state backward. Custer had established no end state. Go get them is not a determined end state.
Maureen O'Hara passed away. A sad day.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Oct 25, 2015 10:28:20 GMT
Chuck,
Truly a great lady, M. O'Hara, her passing punctuates the end of an era, to me. The lady had a life filled with much Hollywood, owned an airline in the Virgin Islands, and worked for a number of causes. Truly a foil who helped make a number of John Wayne movies, one of my favorites, "The Quiet Man".
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 25, 2015 12:25:25 GMT
Yes she has now gone to join the other famous Maureen, Maureen O'Sullivan.
Yan.
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 25, 2015 12:33:56 GMT
Ford B was a recon, pure and simple. Nothing else.
That's another thing, why risk men's lives flapping around a ford doing a recon when you had a great view of the whole area from the high ground just a couple of hundred yards behind, did he want to know if the ford was crossable? Or would he have wanted them to cross to see if they could see what was happening to Reno? If he wanted to know if the ford was crossable then this knowledge could be kept on the back burner to form the basis for any future attacks, if he had no intention of crossing there then he had no need to put men in the firing by milling around the flat area adjacent to the ford, as like I said before he could view the ford and the surrounding area from 200-300 yards away on the high ground. Yan.
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Post by quincannon on Oct 25, 2015 17:01:30 GMT
You may be able to see a Hornet's nest across the length of your back garden, but you may not be able to see if any hornets are in residence until you stick your finger in and see if anyone is home. Both the seeing and the finger sticking fall into the category of recon.
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Post by Beth on Oct 25, 2015 23:12:48 GMT
You may be able to see a Hornet's nest across the length of your back garden, but you may not be able to see if any hornets are in residence until you stick your finger in and see if anyone is home. Both the seeing and the finger sticking fall into the category of recon. Sticking a finger in a hornet's nest strikes me as an extremely stupid way to check for hornets. Wouldn't it be better to just sit quietly for a few minutes and watch to see if hornets are going in and out. It confirms there are hornets and gives you time to decide what to do about them.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Oct 26, 2015 0:11:32 GMT
Beth,
Shoot it with a shotgun. End the nest and kill many of the hornets. If it was empty you are only out a shot shell. I will warn, however, never do this at night with a friend holding a light on the nest, as hornets are attracted to light!
Regards, Tom
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Post by Beth on Oct 26, 2015 1:02:24 GMT
And pray tell what do you do about the angry and now homeless wasps now occupying the yard?
the hornet nests we used to get in Idaho were always under the roof eaves--I would not recommend using a shot gun to get rid of it unless you want to replace a chunk of your roof as well. On the other hand if you went out at dawn when it was cool and they were inactive you could use wasp and hornet spray very effectively.
I've not had to deal with wasps and hornets in Texas yet but fire ants take a totally different strategy. All the rain this weekend is going to have flooded them out of lower areas which means they will be arriving in new areas in a very foul mood. I'll probably have to check and treat the yard tomorrow or Tuesday.
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Post by quincannon on Oct 26, 2015 2:50:02 GMT
Well Beth it seems you have more tactical acumen than George Armstrong Custer.
Tom: I expect you know what to call your shotgun solution - Recon by Fire.
There are times however that you must stick your finger in the nest. but for the most part those times are limited to when during your reconnaissance you must test the enemy to elicit a reaction.
Regardless, what Custer attempted to do at Ford B was a reconnaissance. The formation and disposition of his forces tells you that.
Yard full of carriers this weekend Aeromanche, Charles de Gaulle, Eagle, Ark Royal, Akagi, and Shoho.
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Post by Beth on Oct 26, 2015 5:25:40 GMT
I doubt I have more tactical acumen than Custer. I suspect during his time, being able to make a quick assessment of a situation was considered being decisive and was a positive trait. especially in battle. In recon though I imagine a more deliberate taking in of the situation would be a better used skill. Custer may have been attempting to do a reconnaissance at Ford B but perhaps he had his battle cap on.--can we fight here, nope--move on.
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 26, 2015 20:42:35 GMT
Tom ever thought of sneaking up on a nest when they are at their least inactive (at dawn as Beth said) and place a cardboard box under the nest and either cut it free or knock it off its holdings and let it drop into the box, then close the lid and tape it shut, you can then take it into the wilds and let them free or you can be a cruel sod and throw it on a fire.
Yan.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Oct 26, 2015 21:38:03 GMT
Tom ever thought of sneaking up on a nest when they are at their least inactive (at dawn as Beth said) and place a cardboard box under the nest and either cut it free or knock it off its holdings and let it drop into the box, then close the lid and tape it shut, you can then take it into the wilds and let them free or you can be a cruel sod and throw it on a fire. Yan. I will leave this action to you, please update me. I was I the USAF, if it is off the ground and is aggressive, shoot it down! If you are hungry and it is duck, shoot it down. If it is a dove shoot it down. If it is a pheasant shoot it down. Never tried a flying fish.
Regards, Tom
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Post by mac on Oct 26, 2015 22:04:53 GMT
What about Santa Tom?
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Oct 26, 2015 22:28:43 GMT
Mac, You which list I was on, don't you.
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