|
Post by Elwood on Feb 20, 2024 21:30:29 GMT
If the original NUTS message is still in existence it should be there too I would think. I will wait and see what your research uncovers. Been searching on the 'net, no luck. I'm beginning to think I may have seen this on a tv show, maybe . . . Bulge program on the History Channel. I know I did not dream this. Anyway, I found the ph. # to the USMA museum. Called them. Guy at the front desk had no idea. He suggested I call the Archives dept. I did and they suggested I email the question to them and they would answer that. I just emailed them, hoping to hear back from them soon. arch-spec@usmalibrary.org
|
|
|
Post by quincannon on Feb 20, 2024 23:49:46 GMT
"The sun and the moon change. The Army knows no seasons" Nathan Brittles
I'm sure you're thinking what I am. Look you bureaucratic son of a bitch a yes or no answer would do quite nicely. The Army knows no seasons.
|
|
|
Post by Elwood on Feb 21, 2024 1:24:35 GMT
Well I have no idea if I talked with a cadet,a retiree, or some civilian employee. I referenced McAuliffe's NUTS reply to the Germans but I got the impression that they did not know what I was talking about. I would have liked to spoken to the museum historian but I guess he was off.
|
|
|
Post by quincannon on Feb 21, 2024 1:53:30 GMT
It has been my experience dear friend that when you trust someone enough to answer your telephone, it is best if that someone knows his shit.
Imagine yourself owning a doggie grooming emporium and you hired a nitwit who knew neither what a dog or a haircut was. How many customers could you expect through your front door?
I might overlook, after shaking my head in despair, if you were inquiring at the national museum of the confederacy in grinderswitch, mississippi as to how they could leave a moron in charge of a phone, but I expect morons would be the only ones willing to work in such a foul place, but goddamnit this is frigging West Point, the United States Military Academy
|
|
|
Post by Elwood on Feb 21, 2024 22:57:52 GMT
I received an email reply early this morn. I was thankful for that effort. But the reply,from the Archives dept., simply thanked me for my interest and gave me the address and ph. # of the museum and told me to contact them. I replied immediately and told them that I already spoke to someone at the museum and they had told me to contact the Archives. I gave them a more detailed description of my request. They replied that they had no knowledge of whether or not they had the Bastogne note but they said they would make a ticket for the "Special Collections and Archives' staff to address. A reply will be forthcoming, hopefully.
So, I guess I'm making progress.
|
|
|
Post by quincannon on Feb 22, 2024 1:36:09 GMT
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. A bunch of route step bureaucratic bumbling bastards. Yes or no goddamnit. You either do or you don't. No shame if you don't. No glory if you do.
You can bet your sweet ass Mister E. that if you were a member of Congress and made this request you would have your answer the day before you asked the question. The Army Museum System and the Center For Military History in general has one primary mission, to serve the public. Last time I looked you were the public in that mission statement.
|
|
|
Post by Elwood on Feb 22, 2024 22:16:15 GMT
Well, in their defense, I'm not they have any idea what McAliffe's Bastogne "NUTS" message is.
|
|
|
Post by herosrest on Feb 23, 2024 2:18:37 GMT
|
|
|
Post by miker on Feb 23, 2024 3:22:35 GMT
A nice find. But I don't think that is the note since it seems to be a copy for Bradley.
|
|
|
Post by herosrest on Feb 23, 2024 4:08:43 GMT
It"s nearly four in the am. here and my mind was on irrigation. The only other 'station' ideas which I could pertain to WMC in the early 1900's were something railway related since the line ran through the valley in 1895 and that was his day job. The other thing going on was farming which is irrigation. www.montanawatercenter.org/irrigatedI found very little on the railroad construction and masses of stuff on irrigation and water stations but nothing coherent or collective for his period. That led me to Walter A. Graves who started the LBH valley irrigation schemes in the mid 1890's oneards. It was done with appropriations from the settlement funds of the Crow tribe. If you look at the 1891/1907 map by R.B. Marshall, there at bottom left and beneath the plot of the markers set by 25th Infantry in 1890 (Capt. O.J. Sweet - Company D) - there is Walter A. Graves accreditation for the scheme of the river meanders. Graves had moved on when WMC was on the ground but I guess he banged heads with the subsequent Irrigation bosses at Crow Agency. The reports and paperwork are... a pain but exist because public funds were at work. The valley ended up littered with trenches and ditches, Reno canal and even discovered battle related remains in 1925, which were a part of the following years 50th anniversary. Camp died August 3rd, 1925.
|
|
|
Post by herosrest on Feb 23, 2024 12:27:41 GMT
Report of the Secretary of War : being a part of the message and documents communicated to the two Houses of Congress at the beginning of the second session of the Forty-sixth Congress 1879 (v.4) p146: CUSTER ( FORT CUSTER ) , MONTANA TERRITORY .
[ Official number , 200. ]
Longitude
Latitude
45 48
107 38
Established December 5, 1878.
Mr. E. P. Delano opened the station and was relieved, June 11, by Private D. C. Ralston.
Number of messages since opening station . - Sent paid, 94; sent collect, 28; received paid, 121; received collect, 26; sent free, 380; received free, 301; total, 950.
-
Receipts. This line, $36.44; other lines, $166.25; sundries, $ 1.97; total, $204.66.
The station is supplied with a complete set of telegraph instruments and repair tools.
No meteorological reports, except the sunset observations, had been made up to June 30.
The repair section of this station extends to Rosebud, ninety-two miles east, and to Stillwater, ninety-four miles west.
Probably the greatest innovation related to native art forms with totem polls. Invented by numerous tribes, developed by the US Army. Damn................. i'm good.
Do not click unless you are of humerous disposition
|
|
|
Post by herosrest on Feb 23, 2024 12:41:04 GMT
|
|
|
Post by quincannon on Feb 23, 2024 15:03:32 GMT
Mister E: "In their defense" - If they do not have any idea what McAuliffe's "Nuts" message is, why are they working in the museum at the United States Military Academy?
That is like Frank Purdue saying he had no idea chickens laid eggs, or Peter Cottontail saying he has no notion of how to find the bunny trail, Santa not knowing that Rudolph's nose shinned so bright, or anyone not being aware that the Washington Monument was named for George Washinton.
|
|
|
Post by herosrest on Feb 23, 2024 22:26:08 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Elwood on Feb 24, 2024 0:46:50 GMT
Mister E: "In their defense" - If they do not have any idea what McAuliffe's "Nuts" message is, why are they working in the museum at the United States Military Academy? Well, just trying to figure out why it seems no one up there has ever heard of this piece of history. No word back yet.
|
|