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Post by azranger on Oct 28, 2016 14:31:26 GMT
I think it is important to note that at the time of writing an author has already formed their opinions. The next major discussion by Gordie involves Benteen arriving back in Reno Creek which he calls Ash Creek. He believes that Kanipe delivered a message to Benteen to hurry from Capt. Custer. He provides some sources for comments on Benteen’s rate of travel from the watering place.
Interesting that Kanipe tells them that Custer is whipping them. Custer was not even engaged at the time that Kanipe was sent.
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 28, 2016 19:39:36 GMT
Kanipe was full of it.
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Post by Beth on Oct 29, 2016 2:02:41 GMT
Here is my expectation of an author. They have formed opinions and should provide the sources they used in making informed opinions that they write about. They should be past the collecting of further basic research when they write their book. Of course there is always new information available or a look at older information from a different prospective. Authors such as Fred and Gordie invested a lot of time gathering their research. My expectation is that they are not willing to change their opinions easily. The difference as I see it is that both of these authors have invested tens of years of their lives developing their opinions.
It is not reasonable to ask them to change without a lot of supporting new evidence. So use them as a source but if you disagree with their opinion you are on your own.
Regards Steve
I agree that an author invests in a lot of time and research to their work. I also believe that just because you disagree with an author's findings doesn't make their work any less valuable. It's important to look at possible theories of events and weigh each one on the same scales. Harper's opinion of Benteen and Reno were not revolutionary. His views were supported by a huge number of other researchers and hobbyists. Personally I think it's important to understand what parts are based on facts and what parts may be personal bias.. I don't mean to come down on Harper and the possibility that his research was biased by his view, nearly every aspect of LBH will always have some sort of bias when you are looking the human factors. I'm not exactly sure I understand how an oblique was meant to work. If Custer had meant himself and Benteen to remain within a distance that allowed them to remain in contact, what would Custer's advance have looked different?
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Post by azranger on Oct 29, 2016 19:10:22 GMT
An oblique would reference the angle that Benteen took. Without proof I think it was to intersect SFRC at least 4-5 miles from the junction with Reno Creek.
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Post by Beth on Oct 30, 2016 4:09:14 GMT
Why an oblique though? Instead of a "go left?" Do you do an oblique so you aren't giving up so much distance to the other group that is traveling straight?
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 30, 2016 10:08:40 GMT
I guess its military jargon Beth, along with words like retrograde, all designed to confuse us none military cats.
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Post by azranger on Oct 30, 2016 14:28:27 GMT
I think it simply means an angle of march from the main body of less than 90 degrees. Unlike moving off and than forming a parallel movement like a flank guard.
At noname it is almost 5 miles back to Reno Creek.
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 30, 2016 15:44:53 GMT
Yes Steve is correct;
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Post by chardvc on Oct 30, 2016 19:16:38 GMT
Suddenly high school maths is flooding back - STOP IT!!
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 31, 2016 11:48:25 GMT
Yes Mark, I can remember the old isosceles triangles.
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Post by Beth on Oct 31, 2016 22:25:07 GMT
I am the very model of a modern Major-General, I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral, I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;a I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical, I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical, About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news, (bothered for a rhyme) With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse
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Post by yanmacca on Nov 1, 2016 14:48:36 GMT
Who wrote that Beth, Noel Coward? [quiet brilliant] link
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Post by chardvc on Nov 1, 2016 16:07:16 GMT
Gilbert or Sullivan I believe Ian.
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Post by yanmacca on Nov 1, 2016 16:16:40 GMT
Mark you are correct, what a combination Gilbert O'Sullivan.
I had to post that clip of Coward's, it is a classic!
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Post by chardvc on Nov 1, 2016 16:30:19 GMT
Mark you are correct, what a combination Gilbert O'Sullivan. I had to post that clip of Coward's, it is a classic! Ah yes - Gilbert, Ronnie's grandad!
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