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Post by miker on Jul 4, 2023 8:14:16 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Feb 21, 2024 19:17:35 GMT
Now I am confused about what pictures we are talking about. The infantry soldiers are Cemetery Ridge are obviously not near Ford D. I probably don't know what pictures HR was talking about. I thought there were pictures of the 7th moving across Ford B during the 10 year reunion (perhaps later) where Godfrey buried the hatchet. Are there pictures of troops moving across Ford D from anytime (obviously not during the battle.) Mike
Sorry for the confusion. I have been in discussions with HR forever and his belief that the soldiers were not north of Last Stand Hill. HR posts all these pictures from the anniversaries. The cavalry rode across Highway 8 and staged to the north of administrative site on private land. From there they rode onto the battlefield in front of the hundreds of the visitors that were there for the event. They would not be firing the copper guilded cases that were used in 1876. They would be firing blanks and one was found in the staging area on the Dyck property. It was .45-70 blank Benet primed cartridge case. The collection of artifacts found during the construction can be found in A Good Walk Around the Boundary by Douglas Scott and Peter Bleed.
Either HR believes that investigators would be confused by a blank cases and he ignores the fact that 4 carbines identified by tool marked cases on BRE and the Calhoun area. It is a joke that archeologists can determine the difference between 1976 cases and blank cases.
Regards
Steve
In a week or so Douglas Scott will be making a presentation about Ford Ds at the CBHMA meeting in Hardin MT . It will be published. I don't know the content but if they found nothing it would be a short paper.
I have never said that soldiers were not where it has been indicated that they were. What I have, and do say, is that those men were escaping the close of battle,numbered as many as fourteen (14) and were told of by Gall during the interviews he gave at the battlefield in 1886. Custer may have been shot in the river, he may have been shot in the bottom, but if that was at the locations being given below LSH, then it took place after the fighting on BR had ceased and the escape and evade was taking place. A large number of participants told of groups escaping the close of fighting and heading for the river. That is its own complete can of worms because there seems to be twenty-eight (28) missing bodies which obsesses some people. The Officer who buried them, is stated in record, as that taking place one hundred yards from the river. That was McDougall, at Chicago, about the dead from the company he used to serve with. I firmly believe, that any sane commander, going at Little Bighorn, with what Custer had and commited to attack rather than be attacked (the fatal mistake) would have repreated tactics which his command understood and had already practiced succesfully. That is Washita. If I end up one day, where GAC went, then I shall ask him and then i'll know.
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Post by herosrest on Feb 21, 2024 19:38:57 GMT
Camp provides a lot of interesting information pertaining to his mapping, often inlcuding Odometer readings and "stations" (Telegraph stations? Camp mentions telephone lines - so maybe? USGS stations fire stations?? Anyone?). Does anyone get/know the specifics of this stuff? How to read the odometer readings? (feet? revolutions? ??) What the Stations are? Telephone Poles? USGS things? For example: And... THANKS! I surmised, some long time ago, that WMC was probably relating telegraph pole ID's as his stations. Be that yey or ney, I was unable to locate anything worthwhile about the practical, or actual, laying out of the telegraph lines from anywhere. It is mentioned in EO's annual appended reports but is cursory and without any detail. I can imagine the poles each being numbered..... that makes a modicum of sense, but never came across an inventory or detail. Did you solve your mystery?
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Post by miker on Feb 21, 2024 21:52:58 GMT
I think Hero, for no real good reason, is when they surveyed they established a known point (somehow or other) and (some, many, most, all) subsequent bearings etc. were based on that known point or station. But I am just thinking out my ass. But in the modern army, we would designate a known point and call for fire by saying from "X" left 500 up 1000, fire.
I do not maintain I am right on any of this.
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Post by herosrest on Feb 23, 2024 2:08:07 GMT
I don't, (that I am) either. I tried to think it through from being on the ground (trails) when WMC was. I ruled out railway. So what else was there? Coms... Telephone poles.
I could find zero zilch nada to support that idea. Our dear old Walter was one frustrating little bog guy.
Regards.
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Post by herosrest on Feb 23, 2024 2:36:53 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Feb 23, 2024 2:42:32 GMT
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