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Jul 14, 2023 16:05:09 GMT
Post by quincannon on Jul 14, 2023 16:05:09 GMT
Let me see if I have this right. Putin's strategic problem according to him and several military analysts that have opined on the issue is that he felt NATO was coming too close to the borders of the Rodina, so he starts a war in Ukraine to grab territory and place it under his control. Yesterday Finland, on Russia's border, joined NATO. Sweeden is about to join, adding depth to Finland in the Arctic region for NATO. At the conclusion of the war in Ukraine which Russia is losing ( If you invade, you're losing if you ain't winning) Ukraine will become a member of NATO, on Russia's border. Belarus (a Russian ally) is as unstable as Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Germany is building a tank plant in Ukraine. I wonder how Putin's strategic vision is progressing?
Then as of yesterday there is the mobilization order for three thousand reservists that may be required to reinforce U S Army Europe under Atlantic Resolve. The right wing is screaming so Biden must have done something right, having Putin soil his britches.
Of course our Right Wing idiots do not understand one bit of - "Si vis pacem, para bellum"
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Jul 14, 2023 19:07:04 GMT
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Post by Elwood on Jul 14, 2023 19:07:04 GMT
Caesar, right?
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Jul 14, 2023 21:50:07 GMT
Post by quincannon on Jul 14, 2023 21:50:07 GMT
Depends upon who you listen too. Most people attribute it to George Washington, but it goes back at least 2000 years. Washington did say it in English though. If you want peace, prepare for war.
Joe Biden is an old man by most peoples standards. He is actually two months older than I am. Having said that there is no one I would trust with the foreign policy of the United States more than Joe Biden.
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Jul 15, 2023 0:48:29 GMT
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Post by Elwood on Jul 15, 2023 0:48:29 GMT
Was quite lukewarm on Biden couple of years back, did vote for him in ‘20. Have come to respect him. Far sharper and talented than people give him credit for.
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Jul 15, 2023 3:29:07 GMT
Post by quincannon on Jul 15, 2023 3:29:07 GMT
Joe Biden has made a political career out of being sleepy old Joe. That's quite authentic, and who he is. My dad was from central Pennsylvania just like Biden, and to understand Biden you have to understand where he grew up. That's just the way folks are up there, laid back. Joe Biden was the same way when he was 35 as he is now at 80. Briefed him a couple of times back in the day. Two of the smartest men I ever met were Joe Biden and Bob Dole. I judged them by the depth of the questions they asked indicating they had done their homework before they sat down. One of the most stupid was the former Senator from Alaska, who was asleep with his eyes open.
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Jul 19, 2023 23:34:38 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Jul 19, 2023 23:34:38 GMT
Up-armored Leopard 2A4 in Ukrain.
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Jul 19, 2023 23:53:20 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Jul 19, 2023 23:53:20 GMT
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Jul 20, 2023 0:28:54 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Jul 20, 2023 0:28:54 GMT
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Jul 20, 2023 2:46:40 GMT
Post by quincannon on Jul 20, 2023 2:46:40 GMT
It's not the size of the opposition HR. It is the quality of the opposition. I do not think there are 100 thousand quality troops left in the entire Russian Army and I highly doubt if that army contains 900 modern operational tanks. Give me half or slightly less of both, with the required quality and Putin will wish he had never heard the word Ukraine.
You must also remember that truth is the first casualty of war.
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Jul 20, 2023 14:42:21 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Jul 20, 2023 14:42:21 GMT
Understood. But...... Chosin comes to mind.
Regards.
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Jul 20, 2023 15:18:22 GMT
Post by quincannon on Jul 20, 2023 15:18:22 GMT
CHOSIN. You can lay Chosin at the feet of one guy Ned Almond a racist pig and totally incompetent Corps commander. What you may not do though is fault the quality of the troops, or inflate the importance of the numbers of Chinese troops. Once those troops were inside the perimeter of the port of Hungnam they could have held out and destroyed any Chinese attempt to drive them out. Evacuation was an operational decision, that MacArthur made and I believe it was a tragic mistake.
The 1st Marine Division was sent to Yudam in an unrealistic attempt to link the Hungnam bridgehead with Eighth Army on the other side of a mountain range. A second X Corps division, the 7th ID was sent in the opposite direction to get to the Yalu. A third division, the 3rd ID along with ROK troops secured the Hungnam perimeter. It was very much like Custer did at LBH divide your force and effort in the face of the enemy. That's not the fault of the troops. That is the fault of the commander. Each of those first two divisions lacked the combat power commensurate with the mission.
Ned Almond was one of those generals who never failed to make a fatal mistake. Read about his performance as the commander of the 92nd Infantry Division in Italy. I had a friend once who served under Almond in the 92nd in Italy. He told me that Almond referred to his own troops as his F**king Ni**ers. I had a hard time believing that until I heard the same thing from General Davidson then commander of the Military District of Washington, who happened to be my friend Andy Travis's company commander in the 92nd. We met at a Medal of Honor ceremony at the White House when Andy introduced me.
The bottom line my good friend HR is that no matter how good the troops are, if their commander is rotten to the core, good does not matter.
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Jul 20, 2023 15:31:46 GMT
Post by quincannon on Jul 20, 2023 15:31:46 GMT
Now that you have cited Chosin to me HR, let me return the favor at cite Chipyong Ni to you, where a surrounded 23rd Regimental Combat Team (Reinforced) destroyed four CCF divisions. The difference was the commander. Colonel Paul Freeman should have in my opinion deserved the award of the Medal of Honor for his performance on that occasion, despite being himself wounded during that action and refusing to relinquish command. Of course there is, again in my opinion, the 2nd Infantry Division and the rest of the U S Army.
For further reading on Chipyong Ni let me recommend to you Leo Barron's "High Tide in the Korean War" Great book.
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Jul 23, 2023 1:11:10 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Jul 23, 2023 1:11:10 GMT
I just bumped into Holy Mass m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq1NNF_Ex9YOverwhelming force wrought strategic havoc in Korea. That went both ways. Overwhelming force presents a resolute defender with ducks in a row if they can survive or counter the artillery. We we were very rudely kicked out of North Korea. That's what happened.
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Jul 23, 2023 4:20:05 GMT
Post by quincannon on Jul 23, 2023 4:20:05 GMT
That was slick.
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Jul 24, 2023 15:35:14 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Jul 24, 2023 15:35:14 GMT
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