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Apr 24, 2022 8:07:48 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Apr 24, 2022 8:07:48 GMT
The coming trend in modern warfare. Whack a Mole. The drone swarm has been a popular movie fiction and now reality with the the smaller proponents of the technology and art. The next step, of course, is upscaling payloads, loiter and comms/AI. Producing 1,000 of this www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/tcescc/turkish_mius_unmanned_fighter_aircraft_has/ type system, crashes unit cost and faciliates Whack a Mole warfare. The difficulty I foresee with MIUS is launch and landing, it isn't VTOL. On demand battlefield oblivion.
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Apr 24, 2022 8:24:12 GMT
Post by herosrest on Apr 24, 2022 8:24:12 GMT
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Apr 24, 2022 8:28:30 GMT
Post by herosrest on Apr 24, 2022 8:28:30 GMT
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Apr 24, 2022 8:51:38 GMT
Post by herosrest on Apr 24, 2022 8:51:38 GMT
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Apr 24, 2022 9:30:22 GMT
Post by mac on Apr 24, 2022 9:30:22 GMT
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Apr 24, 2022 17:03:47 GMT
Post by quincannon on Apr 24, 2022 17:03:47 GMT
What is currently happening in Ukraine will change the nature of warfare in much the same way that the 1973 Arab-Israeli conflict did for soldiers in my generation. A lot of the things we thought we knew have gone by the wayside.
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Post by herosrest on Apr 24, 2022 21:07:47 GMT
The basics, the art, ain't going nowhere. What you know will be learnt again. The coming difference is a battlefield free of logistics. Click if you dare. I double dare's ya!
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Post by quincannon on Apr 25, 2022 8:58:19 GMT
Quite agree. The basics did not change as a result of the Arab-Israeli Conflict of 1973 either HR. All it changed is the techniques with which the basics were employed. The basics never change. They are the same today, as when Rome's Legions marched. Just another reason to study warfare, instead of concentrating, as some do here, on just one battle. You can't understand battle, without fully understanding warfare itself.
A battlefield free of logistics may be a bridge too far, but I think I understand your meaning here, that logistics will be streamlined to such an extent that it will not be the ball and chain on firepower and maneuver that it presently is.
I also appreciate the fact that you see war through a wider lens than most, incorporating politics and economics in the mix with raw military power. No military power ever existed, nor was war ever waged by military power alone, without the political will and economic power behind the forces at the cutting edge. Some will tell you, I among them, that World War II was won in Newfoundland on board Prince of Wales, in 1941. All the critical decisions that would lead to victory were decided there.
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May 2, 2022 11:41:26 GMT
Post by herosrest on May 2, 2022 11:41:26 GMT
If your artillery and precision strike capability is loitering on call, the ball and chain is cut as you intimate. It's not tactical freedom but your bases and their defence moves way way back down the supply line. That becomes its own game of counter's but your offence/defence just call in the hammer and whack the moles.
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Post by herosrest on May 2, 2022 11:45:03 GMT
I know you're mulling and chewing Lima Bravo's joys...... I feel that Terry's hope and plan, wished for the Camp to be located on the mouth of Lodgegrass some 12 miles up the valley. His outline instructions then make some realistic sense. The camping site had been discovered by a 2nd Cavalry two company recon into the area at April/May 1876. Had Custer followed Terry's outline then the Rosebud battleground would have been detected by his scouts in moving up that valley towards Kirby. Unfortunately, the Sioux decided to move down the Little Bighorn to where the battle occured, rather than up it as planned - to Lodgegrass. On 20th June, Terry made a good call but his forces were detected by roaming Indians and a decision was taken under whatever context, to move the camp towards Terry and Gibbon. Sitting Bull's camp moved below Garryowen on the morning of 24th June 1876, and was located in disguise along the wooded river banks with one of its five camps, exposed to view in being located to the west of the valley. Custer on Rosebud, and Terry along the Bighorn, were known to the Sioux leaders. They have said they were completely surprised by Custer's approach and this was because it was during the middle of the day - which was not common experience. There is evidence that a very large contingent of the pre-battle camp, left the gathering on the night of 23/24 June moving out for Powder River. In saying large, that is precisely large in terms of being perhaps 50% of those present camped in the valley from Ford A upstream as far as the rail siding at Benteen on Long Otter Creek. Long Otter was a member of the Crow Tribe who settled there after the battle when things had quieted down somewhat. I don't know if hewas involved with Sword Bearer in the later troubles but it would make some sense. Some artillery with 7 should have altered the odds and medicine in the army's favour and that lesson was there to be learnt from 1873 where the Sioux showed stubborn, dangerous and aggressive until bombed. I agree that no-one today understands the mission of 1876 which was as given. Sitting Bull's initial response was tooffer parley but this collided with Reno's advance. The fight was on! I firmly believe that artillery would have altered the battle's dynamics in favour of the cavalry but there were only Gatling Guns which asbest I can figure were able to reach out 2,500 yards with 1" rounds. Close in on skirmish they are devastating but Indians didn't fight in massed ranks. The Gatlings would have turned the village into matchwood which was the established practical way of getting the job done. An idle thought on this, had the hostile's camp been taken and destroyed then the pony herds had to be taken and disposed of. That was how it was done and why J.J. Reynolds was dumped on by Crook after the St. Patrick's Day fight at Powder River. A distributed attack, as I refer to it, failed to concentrate on the target (village) and paid the price. The Reno Hill position was easily overcome by a determined and clever enemy in running pony herds into the positions ahead of mounted charges. The Indians thought to much of their horses and of course absolutely depended upon them for the nomad lifestyle. The northern battalion (Right wing) of 7th Cavalry was written off for a number of reasons not worth going into. Promotions that year, by seniority, had lifted Custer to Snr. Lt. Col, and Colonelcy awaited rather than Presidency if the President allowed it. I suspect that Custer would have found himself in charge of a fleet of small boats off the Barbary Coast but then again, Grant passed from imposition in 1877. The fighting of 1873, hallmarks Little Bighorn and it is a pity the Battle on Pease Bottom in August 1873, and events leading to it, are not better associated with 7th Cavalry in 1876. Ah, Custer! Do come in. Take a seat. We are wondering how well you swim? Like a fish, Mr. President! Oddity - archive.org/details/artilleristsman00gibbgoog/page/n7/mode/2up?view=theaterWonderful. We have this little problem with Corsairs off the coast of Tripoli. You leave at dawn.
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May 2, 2022 12:04:39 GMT
Post by herosrest on May 2, 2022 12:04:39 GMT
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May 11, 2022 17:59:21 GMT
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Post by herosrest on May 11, 2022 17:59:21 GMT
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May 11, 2022 19:11:11 GMT
Post by quincannon on May 11, 2022 19:11:11 GMT
You read too much doom and gloom HR. Eat some strawberry shorcake, along with a good glass of whatever is popular from the Glens these days in the UK, and all will be right in the morning. Nothing is ever as bad as it looks or as good as it seems, in both sex ans war.
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May 12, 2022 5:54:09 GMT
Post by mac on May 12, 2022 5:54:09 GMT
" Nothing is ever as bad as it looks or as good as it seems, in both sex and war." A thought to live by if ever I saw one.
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May 14, 2022 12:18:08 GMT
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Post by herosrest on May 14, 2022 12:18:08 GMT
It all comes down to doctrine eventually and the people who come up with it in gaming ideas. The Custer Battle is a fine example of history and argument over it. Actually defining what it is and off course it is written by the victors. Those who survive. No doom or gloom with me, it is logically impossible to avoid a NATO on Russia war. Too many skins in the game. Several are erratic nut-jobs. Hungary and Turkey at the moment. The Balkans are the most dangerous place on Earth since people got organised. Life is adapting to physical confrontation again and there's only one outcome once the money doesn't matter any more. Anysways, it's been a vague morning which drifted me into a couple of articles on ZH. Mild confusion led me the source and erm..... I'm still laughing. I'm not even gonna try and figure out what the Hedge are up to since they are obviously fattening their wallets. The source of the article - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Culture_FoundationArticle www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/race-break-russia-china-alliance-ukraine-asia-pacificOn the practical reality side, here's an agenda pumping article pushing the China-Russia relationship into the land of cottonwool directly from Russia via US publishers. If it doesn't spin your head enjoy a cookie. Regards all. It's the weekend.
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