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Post by yanmacca on Jun 15, 2020 13:43:07 GMT
Thankfully those places are not in Britain. There is a bloke who is in his 70s, who lives at the independent living scheme I work, now I am 62 in a month or so and he calls me son.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 15, 2020 15:47:48 GMT
Hell, I am probably old enough to call him son.
Boy is a sign of complete disrespect for a Black male. It is a hold over from the days of slavery and it was in common usage during the days of Jim Crow. If you remember the Glenn Miller song whose first line was, "Pardon me boy, is that the Chattanooga Choo Choo", the "boy" they were referring to was either a train porter or baggage attendant, both of which were always Black in that day (1941). It was another may of saying servant, a person of a class lower than your own. It was perfectly acceptable at the time, but that time was far different from today. The civil rights movement of the 1960's changed that in most folks mind. So what does not bother you or me, can be very hurtful to someone else, and neither of us are in the hurtful business.
Been meaning to ask you where that tank in the picture is from. The reason I ask is that it appears to have neither fenders or skirts, which is quite unusual. Looks like it may have USA markings on the front of the hull.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 15, 2020 16:30:11 GMT
Dave: I noticed that you "liked" three of my posts on the Confederacy in modern society, but were mute on my "cancer" post, the one where I concluded that we must cut it out rather than the continual applications of band Aides. Mute, is an expression of opinion, the same as like.
Now as you know, no man alive enjoys reading and researching the Confederacy more than I do, and the opinions I expressed I feel are more than fair. JEB Stuart is my very favorite among the Confederate general officers. It is not because he is a Confederate. I would like him equally if he served the Union, or in the Hottentot Militia. He is the grandfather of U S Armor and Cavalry doctrine, and for that I would welcome a statue of him in my front yard. In fact I do have a statue of him on my dresser, saber, cape, plume and all. He has been studied for generations of Army officers, and not one I know ever gave a second thought to him being Confederate.
All that said though, the time has come to take action on all Confederate symbols and either move them to their proper place, or eliminate them once and for all. The health of the country depends upon it. A more perfect Union depends upon it. Patriotism, the love one has for their country above all depends upon it.
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Post by yanmacca on Jun 15, 2020 19:43:51 GMT
Chuck that picture was took in Normandy, I posted up were I took it a few months ago, I will see if I can find it as I cant recal the place name.
I have a friend named Ged and he was a radiographer who xray pipe welding, he worked all over Europe and made a lot of dough which he gambled away. I remember him telling me that he spent some time on the North Sea oil rigs and the place was full of Texans. He said that they were all right but one day he walked into the canteen, sat down next to them and said, 'morning boys' and recieved cold looks, one of them turned around said 'I aint your boy'.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 15, 2020 21:52:31 GMT
For a White guy to say that it shows only that they are immature and have low self esteem. For a Texan to say that it means that they were out doing the two Step to Bob Wills music the previous night, and are still hung over. Had he said it to a Black guy in Detroit, chances are your friend would be dead, and unable to tell the tale to you, unless he was very, very fast.
Seriously though, it is an expression that should never be used, except among friends of long standing who know the intent is that of and expression of affection, the sign he is a very good friend indeed,
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Post by Beth on Jun 15, 2020 22:14:52 GMT
My Steve is forever in the habit of using 'boy' Even though he refers to everyone that way (privately not to their face) I fear he will slip one day at the wrong time. Of course he hasn't in 35 years so perhaps I worry for nothing.
BTW as a midwestern I use guys the same way they use y'all in the south. I have been told that is no longer acceptable. It's a hard habit to break.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 16, 2020 0:04:52 GMT
One of the things that burns Joan to a cinder, is when some waitress says "Thanks Guys" to her after we place our order. Just drives her crazy.
Another one just as bad in her eyes is when some waitress or counter person in Baltimore says "Thanks Hon". I once saw her almost climb over the counter after some one did so at Jack's on Lombard Street (the best corned beef sandwich on the East Coast) and here all I wanted to do was sit down and eat my damned sandwich. Never paid for a corn beef sandwich there (for myself) in my life, although I tried every time. Seems that I, and a squad of my platoon were in front of Jack's when some stupid infidel non-corned beef lovers tried to burn the place down in 68. See, cops get donuts and Guardsmen get corned beef. World ain't fair is it.
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Post by yanmacca on Jun 16, 2020 9:46:11 GMT
People have gone a lot more serious now, If I walk into a room at work and there are a group of blokes having a natter, then I would say, alright lads or okay boys, or even how’s it going chaps, and they would all reciprocate back with a similar gesture, like sod of Ian ‘LOL’, no they are generally okay.
With females, you have to be careful, but if I come across a group of women, I usually say ‘good morning ladies or girls, and they seem happy enough with that, but I do say ‘hi love if I know them and a lot of women say ‘hi love’ to me too, its just a British thing with the over 40s.
The younger crew are a bit more stand offish, so I just say morning to most of them, and if they haven’t got their faces stuck in their mobile phones, they simply say back ‘Hi’.
Chuck, the term corned beef is a totally different product over here, corned beef comes in a can and is the same stuff what they fed the British troops with in two World Wars, I don’t like it on sandwiches as it is rather greasy, but pop it in a pan with a stock cube, carrots, onions and potatoes and you get a nice pan of stew.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 16, 2020 18:12:25 GMT
If you ever get to the States, you really must go to Jack's. I don't particularly like it either, and dread Saint Patrick's Day, but Jack's is different, as are the real Jewish Deli's in New York, where they serve a Reuben, that will make you leap tall buildings in a single bound.
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Post by Beth on Jun 17, 2020 17:49:17 GMT
If you ever get to the States, you really must go to Jack's. I don't particularly like it either, and dread Saint Patrick's Day, but Jack's is different, as are the real Jewish Deli's in New York, where they serve a Reuben, that will make you leap tall buildings in a single bound. You have my mouth watering just thinking about it. I loved corned beef in about any way you want to serve it except as hash. Ian that canned stuff is only fit for dog food.
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Post by quincannon on Jun 17, 2020 19:10:34 GMT
Tell you what Beth, when I get my income tax refund, I will hop on a plane, slip down to Round Rock, pick you up and hit Jack's, then Philly for Pat's and or Gino's, then on to NYC for a real Reuben. We can send a dogie bag to Ian, so he can have a taste of real East Coat ethnic foods, and he will like it so much he will think hard about becoming an illegal alien - real hard.
There are some things that are much better here in the west as far as food goes,Mexican for instance, but when people in the west try to copy east coast junk food they step all over themselves. Steak and Cheese sandwiches are a good example. The altitude here is too high for the bread to rise properly, therefore it cannot absorb the grease, and the sandwich tastes like horse crap. Pizza suffers the same fate. Seafood is like rubber, unless it is fresh water fish caught the day you eat it
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Post by yanmacca on Jun 17, 2020 19:58:31 GMT
I remember when we were in NYC and we found an Irish bar near ground zero, it was the beer that drew me in because I think European Lager/Beer is the best in the world and they sold it. Once inside I said to Sue, do you fancy a snack, and she said no I am okay, so I looked at the bar menu and saw a cheese steak sandwich with fries, so I ordered it, I was fully expecting a normal size butty [sandwich] with a few chips [fries] and what came back was a long bread roll about 16 inches long, stuffed with about 2lb of fried streak, a ton of fried onions and layers of melted cheese plus a rook of fries.
I said to Sue, I can’t eat all this at midday, I only had a bacon and egg butty two hours ago, so she had to help me eat it.
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Post by Beth on Jun 19, 2020 18:49:07 GMT
I remember when we were in NYC and we found an Irish bar near ground zero, it was the beer that drew me in because I think European Lager/Beer is the best in the world and they sold it. Once inside I said to Sue, do you fancy a snack, and she said no I am okay, so I looked at the bar menu and saw a cheese steak sandwich with fries, so I ordered it, I was fully expecting a normal size butty [sandwich] with a few chips [fries] and what came back was a long bread roll about 16 inches long, stuffed with about 2lb of fried streak, a ton of fried onions and layers of melted cheese plus a rook of fries. I said to Sue, I can’t eat all this at midday, I only had a bacon and egg butty two hours ago, so she had to help me eat it. In the US restaurant portions are huge. Hint for the future ask the size and then ask if they serve half potions.
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Post by Beth on Jun 19, 2020 18:59:05 GMT
Tell you what Beth, when I get my income tax refund, I will hop on a plane, slip down to Round Rock, pick you up and hit Jack's, then Philly for Pat's and or Gino's, then on to NYC for a real Reuben. We can send a dogie bag to Ian, so he can have a taste of real East Coat ethnic foods, and he will like it so much he will think hard about becoming an illegal alien - real hard. There are some things that are much better here in the west as far as food goes,Mexican for instance, but when people in the west try to copy east coast junk food they step all over themselves. Steak and Cheese sandwiches are a good example. The altitude here is too high for the bread to rise properly, therefore it cannot absorb the grease, and the sandwich tastes like horse crap. Pizza suffers the same fate. Seafood is like rubber, unless it is fresh water fish caught the day you eat it It sounds great. Would you believe we lived in Schenectady for nearly 3 years and never made it to NYC? On the other hand we did go north and east as far as Bar Harbor Maine were we had to-die-for lobster rolls. We loved to do the up to Lake Placid, across Lake Champlain and down through Vermont every fall. Schenectady is were we learned bocce and introduced to real Italian food, not the midwest version. I do agree about regional food is best in the region it is from. I can really recommend some good midwestern places where you can find the real joy of an Iowa chop and sweet corn on the cob (in season)--though we have some really good corn fed beef as well. We need to have an area to just discuss food. I believe food is a uniting force in the world and can even be tied directly to the core of this board with the push for farmland.
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Post by Beth on Jun 19, 2020 19:06:41 GMT
There is now a food spot in the after action report. Steve I hope you will share you dutch oven methods plus we can discuss both regional foods but great places to eat.
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