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Post by quincannon on Oct 22, 2016 14:50:07 GMT
Got to thinking about RC Colas and Moon Pies, and to the best of my memory the last I had of either was from the Roach Coach that used to come around he training areas at Benning back in 67.
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 22, 2016 15:13:38 GMT
I remember the rat burgers sold at the rugby matches in the 1970s, they were kept warm in some kind of brine and the onions were in the same kind of liquid, the buns were stale and mustard was that French crap, but they went down great on a cold Sunday afternoon.
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Post by Beth on Oct 23, 2016 0:52:18 GMT
Well now you do Ian! Saw one about 40 years ago on a school trip to Exmoor (sort of thing we did back then). About 4 of us found it and spent ages (as you do as a pre-teen with no knowledge or thought) chasing it through the grass!!
I saw a red squirrel in Exeter in the early 1970s but the only one I've seen since was in Scotland. Mink were regular visitors to our garden - after duck eggs. ____________________________________________________
20 minutes in Yosemite - 4 black bears and about 15 elk.
Tom would have had a field day! Only if it was in season and never in Yosemite.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Oct 23, 2016 11:19:05 GMT
No interest in bear, not a bad eat, but not great eat. Elk, antelope, deer, ducks, geese, and yes even furry tailed rats(squirrel). Wild hogs are also top drawer, generally very lean.
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Post by azranger on Oct 23, 2016 15:57:39 GMT
I agree he received information to attack immediately and also don't go there that the village is to large. Seems whenever we work in a team environment to make decisions they take a long time and offer many options.
I think that is a good reason to have a chain of command and smaller numbers making decisions.
Regards
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I missed all the food stuff before I posted. The elk is now in the freezer. Have some Italian sausage and breakfast sausage for something different. Lots of steaks and roasts.
Right now a pork shoulder in the crock pot with Caroline BBQ sauce. In about 10 hours will pull it.
Also made my Hardin, Montana taco meat to be used when making omelets. Had it at the Lariat but don't won't to wait till next year.
Regards Steve
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 23, 2016 17:58:55 GMT
I wonder what sauce you would serve with Elk? I have never eaten Elk, but I would go with a sweet sauce similar to what you would serve with Venison.
It may seem odd having sweet sauces with meat but I recall the late great Keith Floyd cooking wood pigeon in chocolate sauce.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Oct 23, 2016 20:44:59 GMT
Different epicureans would have different takes, in my mind you would use some variation of a Demi Glace, maybe a green peppercorn sauce. You could use the Demi with a sweet addition as well. Demi Glace is a derivative of one of the mother sauces, if you are not familiar, it is an easy look up.
Regards, Tom
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Oct 23, 2016 20:52:46 GMT
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Post by Beth on Oct 23, 2016 21:51:20 GMT
Steve you might be interested in this pork crockpot recipe. It's my family's favorite allrecipes.com/recipe/24035/kalua-pig-in-a-slow-cooker/It's easy to do but has a LONG cook time. You can use just any sea salt but I do like the Hawaiian pink salt the best, if you can get it. On the other hand I'm pretty sure I got my bag at either Target or Cost Plus.
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Post by yanmacca on Oct 24, 2016 13:56:12 GMT
I think the nearest thing we have to a crockpot recipe is a potroast.
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Post by Beth on Oct 24, 2016 17:41:07 GMT
I started using slow cookers when we lived in Florida--the oven tends to heat up the house too much to run it much. It was also convenient when I had really little kids. They aren't as fool proof as some marketers would have you think. You really have to pay attention to the cut of meat, timing and the size of the cooker or you are going to end up with dry stringy meat.
We do spend a lot of time talking about food around here.
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Post by rebcav on Oct 24, 2016 18:46:45 GMT
One thing that can be said of Gibbon was that he was a brave man. The Iron Brigade would have run him off if he were not made of the same stern material they were. Sadly their bravery lead to their demise but they live on in glory and fame. Regards Dave Them darn "Black Hat Fellers" gave as good as they got. Day 1 at Gettysburg is a prime example. Respectfully Submitted, Duane.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Oct 24, 2016 20:34:20 GMT
Duane,
Gettysburg, LBH, Crimea, you name it. It is guns and roses, if you ain't got the guns, you get the roses.
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Post by dave on Oct 24, 2016 21:16:27 GMT
Reb Cav You are exactly right about the Iron Brigade and its performance at Gettysburg. The fight between the 24th Michigan and the 26th North Carolina in Herbst's woods on McPherson's Ridge. The 26th successfully forced the Iron Brigade back to Cemetery Ridge but at a horrendous cost of almost 70% of the unit with 583 casualties out of the 843 mustered. The Wolverines endured a loss of 73% with 363 casualties out of 496 present for duty. It was a hell of a fight and set the tone for the Battle of Gettysburg! Regards Dave
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Aug 21, 2020 12:44:00 GMT
I believe any other officer would have possibly sent a small detail toward the LBH river, following the large NA trail to gain intelligence on terrain, village location, etc., but he would have taken the main body to the headwaters before turning west to join the LBH valley. It was pretty clear in Terry's order that he wanted Custer to go to the headwaters before moving toward the LBH valley. Probably because he knew Crook would be somewhere in the area and by scouting further south, there was a chance of a link-up, and with a link-up, the 7th commander could inform Crook of the current situation regarding Gibbon and Terry. And when the scouting party returned from following the NA trail west, they would now have a ton of useful intelligence on the situation. I think Terry allowed for leeway on the possibility that Custer might strike hostiles somewhere other than the area of the LBH and might be forced to deviate due to a combat engagement. I don't think he wanted Custer to galavant off as soon as the trail turned west, and since no messenger was sent reference Tullock's creek, Terry was really left in the blind, and with Terry accounting for Custer's travel time to the headwaters, he was expecting all units to converge on the village around the 27th, which should have occurred if Custer had proceeded to the headwaters. Since he didn't, Terry had no way to support Custer's early attack. This thread always fascinated me, and it is 4 years cold, much like the cold case we were exploring, the battle, of 144 years old may need a 2nd look. I know we examine different aspects of the battle on an ongoing basis whether it be north/south battle flow, travel corridors, Native American perspectives/testimony, battle management, and the like. Have we really delved into the mental state of the military commander and his agenda.
We have done what ifs in the past. Let me go off the reservation here. I agree that it would be a somewhat stupid act for a smart man such as Custer to do stupid things. Now I am not a shrink, nor do I play one on TV, and unfortunately I did not stay at a Holiday express last night. Is Custer the man who has not really experienced his glory days as a ACW hero. The only good press he has had since was the Washita, where he did not attempt to save Joel Elliott's command and the only reason he was alive to see that press was hostages, There were thousands of warriors in a string of villages along that river that he knew nothing about(poor recon) ready to pounce on him. He survived for 8 more years due to hostages. The other headlines were when he dispatched Charlie Reynolds with news of gold in the Black Hills. His other press after the war was a Courts Martial and Grant sitting his ass down. My God the man had to beg Sheridan and get om his knees before General Terry to even be attached to the Dakota Column.
Then we have the Boy General turning down extra cavalry companies, Gatling Guns, disobeying orders to go to the head waters of the Tongue for fear of running into Crook, which would probably put he and his command under Crook. So what does he do turn to the Little Bighorn early, not sending Herendeen through Tullock's to give the update to Terry as ordered. Around noon on the day of the battle, he sends the troublesome Benteen to the left. Later sends Reno, who he does not like into the valley with promises of support, but no overall plan. Hell they were expendable, for the greater good. Would not another company or two have been expendable at Ford B, if GAC could just get his hands on those hostages.
If the support requested from Benteen and the pack train was so damned important why would you continue to distance yourself from it. Maybe he was hoping the Indians would fall upon them too. Were they expendable too? Might keep more warriors occupied while he grabs hostages and retreats north toward Terry and Gibbon.
Thanks for this flight of fantasy, however I am only embellishing on what Curtis expressed to T.R. Do I believe it all, maybe not, but it may make our visitors who are Fan Boys of GAC think, or wonder about their hero. Everything expressed was fact with regard to the actual actions.
Regards, To
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