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Aug 10, 2021 10:21:36 GMT
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Aug 10, 2021 10:21:36 GMT
Ian, you are right, but I have seen Chuck be condescending and hard on you. And, you might very well be a a better man than I.
We all came over here, for the most part, because one guy was tossed from another board, for a second time. That guy has basically run Dave from participating. Did run Fred and Will. Badgered Dan, until Steve took his place. People don't join these boards to deal with contentious people and situations. They generally leave. Yet there may be some who will give it back when they have time.
Regards, Tom
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Aug 10, 2021 18:30:36 GMT
Post by quincannon on Aug 10, 2021 18:30:36 GMT
Those may very well be the truest words you have ever spoken Tom. I am hard on people, very hard, just as I am equally hard on myself. My objective in being hard is to make them better than what they are. To make them think through things. To make them do the hard work. To make them prove their point and defend that proof. If you think that is being condescending you do not know a thing about me.
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Aug 10, 2021 19:33:19 GMT
Post by yanmacca on Aug 10, 2021 19:33:19 GMT
I know you can be hard on some, we have had some do's ourselves which went a little beyond, I was almost on the verge of cashing in my chips, just had enough of it all, but sometimes there is no need to be so hard, people come here to express themselves, ask questions which they have been saving up to ask for years, some make some really Ridiculous statements, I know because I have done so myself, but at the end of the day, this site is a hobby for people and not life and death, no one is killed here, no one gets hurt, except for feelings, but there again this shouldn’t really happen among adults like ourselves.
Everybody brings something to the table at one time or other, which makes the board flourish.
I remember well how the black board was when I first started about a decade ago, I recall how some looked down at my posts and others didn’t even give me time of day, which was really disrespectful. I will leave the dead members to RIP, because I did meet some other who I found very cold, Rosebud ignored me on a regular basis. So lets not make this place the same, if some new cat comes up with a crock of bull, then lets put them right with honest and straight answers.
Dan and Dave don’t post much on any board these days, William was always hard work for me, I don’t think he thought I had the credentials to question him over military matters, but that is okay, no harm done, I will treat him with respect if he came back.
I was glad when Fred turned up, but Fred will only debate until he feels he is getting nowhere then he goes, he could have stayed and helped us in other ways, lets face it, all five to ford D is only one thread on this board. Mac tried to pin him down but he felt the need to hop on the bus. I could go on and on with old members like Hunk, Crzhrs and the bloke who used to the daily history diary, Collingwood or something like that.
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Aug 10, 2021 20:58:05 GMT
Post by quincannon on Aug 10, 2021 20:58:05 GMT
I sort of agree, being hard is futile, and more frustrating to the person being hard than it is to the person that the hardness is directed to.
I sometimes must laugh though when the one's who are so concerned about political correctness being rampant, are themselves whining when the person directing comments toward them is not being politically correct. Being nice sometimes is highly overrated.
Everyone, asking a question deserves an answer. Not giving a person the time of day is disrespectful. Sometimes it is not what you do, but what you don't do that matters the most.
I can't stand Bender, and for the same reasons you expressed above.
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Jan 18, 2022 14:18:08 GMT
Post by deadwoodgultch on Jan 18, 2022 14:18:08 GMT
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Mar 27, 2022 14:54:22 GMT
Not really sure if this is the right place to put this stuff, but most is related to trips. Steve and have gotten close with Crow and Cheyenne tribal members. Some things remain the same as in the past with the Cheyenne. For example, the Council of 44 still exists only today they are elected and serve specific terms. also after the 1869 Battle of Summit Springs (in which Tall Bull died) and many later clashes, Cheyenne military societies went underground — an understandable decision, given the way state militias and US military forces seemed bent on their destruction. Some people may have believed that the traditions of the Dog Soldiers and other military societies were gone entirely, swept under a wave of expansionist policies and cultural imperialism. But going quiet for a while did not mean the Dog Soldiers were silenced. Indeed, few things could be further from the truth. It's an unfortunate fact that the Cheyenne, along with many other tribes, have endured generations of forced assimilation. Thankfully, though, many customs have been preserved through writing, oral tradition, art, and the brave acts of native people who resisted acculturation. Today, members of Cheyenne bands have sparked a revival in the Dog Warrior tradition. In 1974, an Oregon reporter wrote that Frank White Buffalo Man, a grandson of Lakota chief Sitting Bull, mentioned the existence of a Sitting Bull Dog Soldier Society. More recently, Native American soldiers serving in Iraq, like Lt. Bill Cody Ayon, talked about the importance of Dog Soldier traditions to their own spiritual and cultural lives. Perhaps the greatest untold truth of the Cheyenne Dog Soldiers today is that they were never really defeated. They're still here, carrying on their traditions, holding their ground, and defending their people. We have met members On our trip this year it is my hope to connect with this man on the Rosebud Reservation. www.spiritualityandpractice.com/explorations/teachers/view/84/joseph-m-marshall-iiiRegards, Tom
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Post by deadwoodgultch on May 12, 2022 19:34:57 GMT
First let me say, that these trips,1990, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019, & 2021 have been a real joy. Steve has certainly been there more than I. The battlefield is fine, the people and the stories are even better. You can pick up bits and pieces every time.
We speak little about the drive, while long the locations and sights in Ok,TX, NM, CO, KS, NE, WY, SD, & ND are certainly far different for this east coast guy. Not all in one year, for sure.
While driving or camping I find that after nightfall the face of the country seems change marvelously, the moonlight intensifies this change. The rivers and streams seem to turn to liquid silver. The grassy plateaus and the Bad Lands are as strange and as wild as they were 140 some years ago.
Regards, Tom
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May 13, 2022 12:32:26 GMT
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Post by yanmacca on May 13, 2022 12:32:26 GMT
I envy you Ton, I am not big on camping outside, maybe a camper van. I enjoy the countryside, always have. The closest thing to that is staying in rual Scotland in the 1970s, we used to rent a cottage in the muddle of nowhere.
Ian
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Post by azranger on May 24, 2022 14:40:10 GMT
One of these days you are going to understand that I do not wish to visit any battle field with amateurs, at least not you two amateurs. I have no interest whatsoever in what you two do. I think it a waste of time and effort. My preference is to talk tactics with tacticians, people schooled in the military arts and sciences. You do not owe me a thing. I do not keep score. I once thought of you as a fine fellow and pleasant companion, but you have turned bitter, vindictive, and quite mean. The bitterness, vindictiveness, and meanness disabused me of my former notions of you. Chuck Since the Indians destroyed the 5 companies to the last man I don't think you have any expertise with what the victors have to say about the battle. So in truth you are the amateur when it comes to what the Indians did during the battle. I think the skills needed to be considered a military professional for this particular battle require a knowledge of horses. Unless you have that it you are also an amateur for this particular battle. To understand what was going on you need the dynamics of riding with an independent seat and how to control a horse. (For this battle the lack of those skills) Having such knowledge would effect decision making at the time. Sgt Ryan stated even Custer would not find these soldiers mounted. What did he mean and how would it effect decisions? As far as skillsets I think 42 years of investigations is sufficient to conduct interviews. The thing that has helped the most I believe is being a Marine. There are lots Marine veterans among the Indians we talked with and that connection has worked well. You can run you mouth on posts but it really doesn't help make this board any better. I could care less. Your an amateur compared to drill instructor and law enforcement training teaches to ignore comments like the ones you like to make. I rode the Benteen to the area and others have. The difference is that I took a GPS hooked to the rear D ring and made the ride. Maybe you could do that but I doubt it. The stuff that Tom and I look at has nothing to do with having military expertise. The only thing you have to look at is where markers indicate the soldiers ended up. Even at that they are not reliable to any degree of certainty. What you don't know is what were they doing before that. The Indians do know since they survived. Sorting out witness accounts is not a military background exclusive. Regards Steve
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Post by azranger on May 24, 2022 14:49:09 GMT
I envy you Ton, I am not big on camping outside, maybe a camper van. I enjoy the countryside, always have. The closest thing to that is staying in rual Scotland in the 1970s, we used to rent a cottage in the muddle of nowhere. Ian My whole career camping including with horses has been part on my life. I have different camp setups depending on time and location. When you get tired of beans in a can sitting in the fire where the outside is burnt and the middle cold you start to learn how to do things to improve your meals. First you have to work or have the desire to be in the woods without services. So not learning to use a Dutch oven really doesn't matter to a couch potato. They have no need to prepare a meal for a place they will never go. The work place or recreation area of choice determines what cooking skills you need. Regards Steve
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