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Post by mac on Aug 17, 2019 4:56:06 GMT
Custer was not to know that the Sacred Arrows were at Ford D and would guarantee a hot reception.
Renewal of the Sacred Arrows is a major summer event, it involves a large rendezvous preceded by 4 stops on the journey. (The Cheyennes by E A Hoebel) Any idea where this stop fits in? Cheers
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Post by yanmacca on Aug 17, 2019 13:29:20 GMT
Mac, in the Harper book, there is mention of how all the Indians thought they were fighting Custer, the author goes as far to add this in his text, for example, the Indian account about the Keogh fight, the Indian say the name Custer in relation to the soldier, when in fact it was Keogh, so the author compensates for this.
The officer he struck down may have well been Lieutenant J Sturgis and not of course Custer, as his head was reported found in the village, and I suppose a sabre would go along way to chop a head off.
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Post by azranger on Aug 17, 2019 15:02:15 GMT
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The image is of the Cheyenne Ford which is across the river from Deep Ravine.
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Post by mac on Aug 19, 2019 4:02:29 GMT
It would be good to see a copy of the whole thing Steve.
I am sure that the location you give is about right for Yellow Nose from his account. I wonder though if the complete drawing is a composite of scenes rather than one event. For example the bit posted shows men died in the ravine and outside it. It shows men outside the ravine were running away. It shows warriors riding away from this area. The task looking at the whole would be to try to make some timeline sense of the events. I think this can perhaps be done given how far we have taken our analysis of events so far.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Aug 19, 2019 11:35:56 GMT
Mac, I wish Steve could transfer the photos he took of this man's hide artwork, in the Brinton Museum. It is not only fabulous but, depicts the gray horse troop and action on CR. The detail is interesting.
Regards, Tom
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Post by yanmacca on Aug 19, 2019 14:27:07 GMT
Hi Mac, great test match yesterday.
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Post by mac on Aug 20, 2019 21:53:12 GMT
Excellent cricket Ian looking forward to Headingly.
Thanks for the picture...need some time but
First impression is that it shows, in the left centre portion, the movement of warriors out around the end of BRE that I have mentioned in the past.
Cheers
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Post by chardvc on Aug 23, 2019 19:00:52 GMT
Excellent cricket Ian looking forward to Headingly. Doh
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Post by yanmacca on Aug 23, 2019 19:39:53 GMT
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Post by azranger on Sept 17, 2019 15:18:54 GMT
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Post by mac on Sept 18, 2019 11:56:55 GMT
Top of the drawing LSH and the right top corner men riding from LSH and being pursued by warriors. The action as noted by someone in action at the north end of the battle.
What is the ceremony happening in the red circle at the bottom right? Cheers
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Sept 18, 2019 13:24:28 GMT
Mac. Steve spent a great deal of time dissecting this picture at the Brinton Museum, in WY this Summer. He will give you much more. But, with regard to the ceremony, it was probably the one that took place the night before the battle where the Suicide Boys made there pact. The art is to me, is an overall picture of multiple key aspects of the overall event. You can also see that the village extends above Ford B. You will also note the grey horses being driven off by Indians.
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Post by azranger on Sept 18, 2019 15:44:57 GMT
Tom is correct about it being the Sundance. I would like those interested to see what they see in there without influence and then we could discuss it. As Tom pointed out the gray horses are run off in what appears to be the Cemetery area.
Steve
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Post by yanmacca on Sept 19, 2019 11:03:17 GMT
Geordie says in his book, that around fifty young men joined the suicide boys, which is rather a lot, but according to some authors, the names of these men are unknown, which is rather strange, since these chaps should be well known in Indian folklore.
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