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Post by quincannon on Apr 18, 2022 2:34:43 GMT
War requires sacrifice. If you are unwilling to sacrifice, don't wage war. If war must be waged for the survival of western culture and values, and make no mistake this is one of those, don't bitch about sacrifice. There is no price too high in both blood and treasure, that must be paid to preserve what makes us a free people.
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Post by herosrest on Aug 1, 2022 13:37:16 GMT
I was wondering if the Good Xi should be warned to never set foot in Taiwan? link I love seeing him smile.
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Post by quincannon on Aug 1, 2022 15:43:25 GMT
Never warn your adversary about anything HR. All a warning does is make them mad. Prepare for them.
I think China could take Taiwan under certain circumstances. The operational problem is a bit like Hitler faced when he insisted on launching Sealion against England. The real difference is that the Formosa Strait is wider than the English Channel, but that might be a blessing for the Chinese.
China has the submarine power to isolate Taiwan, and certainly enough aircraft to gain and maintain air superiority. Their fleet is larger, and contains enough gators to get a lot of troops ashore. The one detracting factor from having all this, is that "all this" must be concentrated prior to any overt move, and that concentration leaves them vulnerable to both early detection of intention, and spoiling attack.
If RIMPAC comes to Taiwan's assistance early, then it is going to be a very bloody naval war, reminicent of your recent post on Samar.
The unknown factor for me is that Taiwan has been in preparation for such an attack from the mainland for nearly seventy five years. I think they understand as clearly as the Israelis do that there in a clear and present danger lurking just over the back fence of their garden. I just don't know how extensive those preparations are.
PS: Just had a brief look at what the Taiwanese have, and they will not be a push over. I really like their wheeled Infantry Fighting vehicle. Would not do squat as a vehicle on the international stage, but it seems well suited for what the Taiwanese could expect in fighting in their own garden. China will be faced with a huge logistical problem if they ever invade Taiwan. Logistics will either win a war for them, or its failure will spread egg foo young all over their faces, and it will not be pretty. Without the robust chop sticks, all of your dinner plans are for naught.
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Post by herosrest on Aug 2, 2022 8:36:12 GMT
Freedom is a water-lily. That's 'cos I say so. You too can be water-lily. If I were to confront a large bugger in major struggle, i'd want them mad as hell and hopping, so I could kick the legs out. The idea that China would go to war is a joke based on their history through numbers of years followed by 000. They have more problems within their borders than outside them and is the reason for 'their' insecurity. Something of a disaster is unfolding as China's belt, braces for another financial disaster. Some of its tin-pot bankers, the community kind which glue together life outside its mega cities were exceedingly naughty to the tune of $6-7bn of deposits simply..... stolen by the quasi state. You just can't beat communism, can you. link It's the tip of an iceberg of unregulated banditry and when the population are ripped off to the scale going on now, things change from the bottom up. They are fu*ked with Covid-19, the population is too large and densely packed for current strategy to succeed. Saving political face will continue to prevent a realistic management of continuing outbreaks. Covid-19 kills the older population. Vaccination reduces fatality by orders of magnitude. China cannot maintain national antibody levels with vaccine and cannot let infections rip to do that job. In a word - fucked. Very little is heard of Covid-19 in Russia since the naked nurse incident but it's reasonable to assume the Russian military are heavily vaccinated. Anyone for a large vodka? The recession is here, if you can figure out what the Baltic Index is showing. tradingeconomics.com/commodity/baltic It measures cost, which went through the roof with the war and is winding down now. Very bad news for anyone invested in growth. Financial mindsets are about to change and inflation isn't going away and won't until interest rates start doing unimaginable things. Russia needs to be put out of its misery promptly. But what do I know? Well, I know this. Putin does counter-intelligence. He works long term, tests and teases and finds solutions to failures and setbacks. Sounds familiar, n'est pas. He counter punches, as the tactical disaster in Ukraine instructs. At the moment the strategy is to make sanctions so unproductive for the West, that we give up. Russia's raw material is basically free for them. Their problem is capital. What about the Germans ...... 200 years supply of coal sitting in the ground and they are importing LNG which cannot be processed. One trick pony, they be. Coal produces SYNGAS which produes electricity. Never let a good disaster go to waste.................. Dumb SoB's. Life goes on.
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Post by herosrest on Aug 2, 2022 8:48:02 GMT
ps It is now to expensive to produce ammonia. This says it all.
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Post by herosrest on Aug 2, 2022 9:06:34 GMT
Never warn your adversary about anything HR. All a warning does is make them mad. Prepare for them. I think China could take Taiwan under certain circumstances. The operational problem is a bit like Hitler faced when he insisted on launching Sealion against England. The real difference is that the Formosa Strait is wider than the English Channel, but that might be a blessing for the Chinese. China has the submarine power to isolate Taiwan, and certainly enough aircraft to gain and maintain air superiority. Their fleet is larger, and contains enough gators to get a lot of troops ashore. The one detracting factor from having all this, is that "all this" must be concentrated prior to any overt move, and that concentration leaves them vulnerable to both early detection of intention, and spoiling attack. If RIMPAC comes to Taiwan's assistance early, then it is going to be a very bloody naval war, reminicent of your recent post on Samar. The unknown factor for me is that Taiwan has been in preparation for such an attack from the mainland for nearly seventy five years. I think they understand as clearly as the Israelis do that there in a clear and present danger lurking just over the back fence of their garden. I just don't know how extensive those preparations are. PS: Just had a brief look at what the Taiwanese have, and they will not be a push over. I really like their wheeled Infantry Fighting vehicle. Would not do squat as a vehicle on the international stage, but it seems well suited for what the Taiwanese could expect in fighting in their own garden. China will be faced with a huge logistical problem if they ever invade Taiwan. Logistics will either win a war for them, or its failure will spread egg foo young all over their faces, and it will not be pretty. Without the robust chop sticks, all of your dinner plans are for naught. South Chins Seas - QC. All is not quiet on the South China front. It may kick off. linkStrategy there is clear. As in 1942, an island barrier to delay and impose risk and cost. No one in their right mind would expect to hold those islands against determined assault. Same for Taiwan. South China Sea will delay any military (naval) thrust from the south. You can tell this was dreamt up by a soldier. It's nuts. You don't need a carrier group to take those islands out and don't have approach China from the south. I wish them well with the hypersonic missiles since the only way they will damage anything is carrying nukes. Psy-war. The island barrier defence is in place to delay a response to an attack on Taiwan. Time for an end to One China Policy. Go Pelosi, go.
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Post by herosrest on Aug 2, 2022 9:16:18 GMT
It would be enormously helpful if Japan took possesion of the East China sea and began constructing island bases about 300 miles east of Okinawa. Just wondering which carrier groups are up in the Aleutians, at the moment........
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Post by herosrest on Aug 2, 2022 10:15:33 GMT
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Post by quincannon on Aug 2, 2022 14:02:26 GMT
Do not be distracted by war talk over Taiwan HR. China's eye is northward. You know who is in the north don't you? How would you feel if the entire rim of the Pacific was in Chinese hands. Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, all of Indo China, and the Philippines would be untenable. In the north is where the danger lies, and for the same reason the Japanese had their eye on the south in 1941.
The message to Russia is never keep you back door unlocked.
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Post by yanmacca on Aug 2, 2022 18:43:04 GMT
Before you slap on your "Woad" HR, lets see what the Chinese do next, Polosi has arrived, Beijing has played down its battle talk. The Chinese have had 75 years to invade Taiwan, they have not done so, now in this climate with Russia being under pressure from the rest of the normal world, would China be daft enough to invade knowing what the world response would be? It would destroy world trade costing China and everyone else, so why would China risk invading this island, an island they have had 75 years to invade?
Ian
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Post by quincannon on Aug 2, 2022 20:00:26 GMT
China will bang its gong anytime anyone of note visits Taiwan. China sees it as losing face.
What does anyone think would happen if the Pope visited Taiwan? Would they declare war on the Vatican?
Only piss pots and neo confederate cowardly lions fear China. The rest of the world, including HR, keeps a weather eye out for them, and that is how it should be.
There is a fundamental tactical principle that Ian points out above --- You do not shit on the table on which you eat. You do not pee toward the prevailing winds, You do not unzip your fly in the presence of the Queen of the May. And you always swim upstream from the herd.
There is something very real here to be concerned with though. Russia at the end of this war in Ukraine, whenever that is will be in a weakened state in terms of morale and the viability of the armed forces they have left. The present sanctions placed upon them will mean their military will be very slow to recover in terms of fielding new technology weapons systems, which will place them even further behind the Eight Ball. China looks to the north as a source of the natural assets required to take their economy further forward in this century. This is a very dangerous situation, not only for Russia, which has never paid much attention to their Aisian back door, but for the world as well. Some would say let the Bear fight the Dragon. I would say that such a conflict will develop strange bed fellows, and that will lead to a world conflict that will make World War II look like Aunt Dinah's Quilting Party. No one is going to be seeing Nellie home from that shindig
Pardon HR, you have to be into Bluegrass to understand that last line.
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Post by herosrest on Aug 3, 2022 9:42:27 GMT
Before you slap on your "Woad" HR, lets see what the Chinese do next, Polosi has arrived, Beijing has played down its battle talk. The Chinese have had 75 years to invade Taiwan, they have not done so, now in this climate with Russia being under pressure from the rest of the normal world, would China be daft enough to invade knowing what the world response would be? It would destroy world trade costing China and everyone else, so why would China risk invading this island, an island they have had 75 years to invade? Ian It doesn't really matter what China do next. Insulting the US's seniir elected politician shiws that either Xi, or minions possibly without his knowledge, are warmongering. A number of exercises have taken place by various nations in that region including joint naval mission by China and Pakistan. This is a part of growing China's sphere of naval ooerations from ME bases they have established. They are developing capability to defend, interdict and dominate primary maritime trade routes. They had a navy doing this centuries ago until turning their back on outside influences. That went well. China pisses people off and always have by arbitrary stupid. It's an interesting history. A political policy of isolating China from trade will not work. Full stop. They are heavily invested for resources and technology where they want to be and exporting cars, trains, entire infrastructure programs and doing it on the cheap whilst financing the endeavours with cut throat terms. This was exampled with our Welsh chip plant now referred for further consideration. A Chines investment in EU took a stake in the plant and plied it with orders which exceeded capacity. Terms allowed for further investment by the Chinese EU agent, effectively taking over the business. They caveated terms and induced breach of terms to take over. China did not take over Taiwan because they did not have the capability other start a nuclear conflict with the US. That is not a realistic prospect these days. China has hawks and doves whose influence and patronage keep Xi in place. All members of one odious entity but of as diverse opinions as the split running through US politics. Unless it was specifically Xi who ordered the insult, the US should insist the 'Mad Dogs' responsible for the act and decision for it be severely reprimanded, ordered to apologise and be sent home to mummy for 10 years - never again playing at politucs. China's interest in Talwan today is technology and chip production. China for all the spiel and tech at Wuhan are bit players with advanced technology who have been stopped stealing technology because they cannot make or design their own. 40 years ago the place was a swamp. It still is. Regards. I hope you are on the mend. Go Vikings!
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Post by yanmacca on Aug 3, 2022 14:58:53 GMT
The Chinese have previous with the invasion of Tibet, I know it is small by comparison but it is on the same lines as Russian with the eastern bloc. I went to Yugoslavia on a school trip/holiday in 1974 and stayed for a week in the north, which is now Croatia and after landing on a grass runway we were told that we couldn’t take any photos till we reached our hotel, which was pretty strange to a 15 year old kid. Russia are also still holding Japanese land linkSo both China and Russia are bullies and terrorists in my eyes.
The Chinese are about to expend a lot of ammo trying to scare Taiwan people with live fire exercises, which is just like throwing your toys out of you cot, what a waste of money just to stomp your feet
I am okay thank you, we still have coughs but so has everybody. I see that the southeast have had no rain for ages, still pretty hot in London I believe.
The Vikings have been winning since they got their new coach, but fell to Barrow raiders at the weekend, who are a tough cumbrian team.
Ian
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Post by herosrest on Aug 3, 2022 21:07:44 GMT
Yup to bullies although it is by degree, a global problem 'cos it happens everywhere in some way or other. Someone, supposedly important goofs up and their mates and those facing embarrassment start defensive protection to look after themselves when someone really should get nailed to awall or used as an odd shaped ball by Vikings. China is having some real problems - virtually a revolution of a kind that has never happened before - This stuff is remarkable and why it is worth dying for free speech above all else, regardless that it is 99.999 to nth % all rubbish. People need to know what goes on and be able to make their own decisions. China just snuffs out the information and tells 1.5 billion people STFU or else. Go Pelosi - Go Back next week. Xi can just shut down his media outlets and....... hell, they probably did that with her visit anyway. Regards The Crimean War lessons will not remain forgotten much longer. Once the national bank balances are staring ruin in the eye, Dear Mr. Putin will not even have time to waken up. He does counter-intellingence, you know. The biggest weakness there is. Norway FinlandGermany Kf-51 5 CVN off China Turkey Lynx 120 The Musk-mobile Poland Iz
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Post by herosrest on Aug 4, 2022 8:24:20 GMT
So, in human terms, Quaternary is consistent with emerging or emergent. Thrupping is coital and the brief common vernacular can express threat or destruction. Howdy, Officer Dribble, we have a problem. Well TC, i'm retired now so the neighbourhood can look after itself. Why China wants to gets its hands on Taiwanese microchip manufacturing. Today, 2022, it is insane to use any Chinese manufactured chips and yet they flood the World with phones, PC's and stuff. I can't wait for Russia to launch a nuclear armed missile. It won't go where they want it..... oh no.................. Never forget Sun Chew............ I post this 'cos the cats out of the bag. This is tied in the Sunburst supply chain infiltrations that were discovered a little while back but had origins in the late noughties which began to be detected but not really understood since 2005. It's in the public domain so. hey China, go suck a duck. It will definately help you quack. Dear Mr. Xi - I have several Chinese routers - can I get a refund?
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