azranger
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Post by azranger on May 12, 2020 14:06:47 GMT
Mac
It is not a Sioux Road on Sioux land it is highway 212 that passes through that reservation and the same highway along the battlefield. It is funded and built by taxpayer dollars. If they were blocking the exits into the reservation lands it would make more sense. Gallup New Mexico is blocking there exits to keep Navajos out. Flagstaff is having an increase of consumers from the reservation because it.
I think it is the same road that I followed Tom on one of our trips to the battlefield.
Regards Steve
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Post by deadwoodgultch on May 12, 2020 18:58:40 GMT
If that same US Hwy. sis runs through the Cheyenne River Sioux Rez. That may indeed be questionable. The roads I am talking about are the rural roads such as the road that leaves I-90 at Chamberlain and exits in ND after also passing through the Standing Rock Reservation. Ian, this has nothing to do with race. The Governor still has not issued a stay at home or shelter in place order, even after the Smithfield Meat packing plant in Sioux Falls had to be shut down due to numerous cases of Covid 19 that led to over 1,000 positive tests in SD,IA, and NE. Read the attached. I called the stops roadblocks, they are in fact checkpoints with health questionnaires. This Reservation is less than 80 miles from the above mentioned plant Read the attached. www.cnn.com/2020/05/11/politics/kristi-noem-south-dakota-tribes/index.htmlRegards, Tom
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Post by deadwoodgultch on May 12, 2020 19:00:03 GMT
HWY should be US HWY 212
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Post by quincannon on May 12, 2020 19:07:09 GMT
Tom: "This has nothing to do with race" Doesn't it? Perception is reality in the moment, Viewed from an Indian perspective - These White guys have been screwing over the Red Man for five hundred years and now they are trying to kill us with a virus, and not allowing us to take preventative measures. So to them it may very well seem to be about race. It just depends upon the viewpoint. One day it may be different, but it is not different today.
I am sure you are correct that the Sioux attorneys cleared it with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Who did BIA clear it with, They are part of the Department of the Interior, and Interior would have to clear it with Commerce and Homeland Security, and possibly a few more cabinet level agencies. If that coordination was not done then the Sioux still don't have the right to close a Federal road, no matter whose reservation the road runs through. With that coordination, and resulting permission, the action would be completely legal. Without it, not so much.
The State, can close any road that passes through the state, regardless of who funded it. Using Tenth Amendment powers they can do just about anything they damned well please, as long as there is no prohibiting language in the Constitution. The States have bot the right and the responsibility to insure public safety within their borders.
In complete fairness here, we are plowing a yet un-plowed field with our response to this virus. We are going to make mistakes, and those mistakes in time will come to light and be sorted out. Right now it is a work in progress. That's the way human are.
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Post by mac on May 13, 2020 13:18:46 GMT
"In complete fairness here, we are plowing a yet un-plowed field with our response to this virus. We are going to make mistakes, and those mistakes in time will come to light and be sorted out. Right now it is a work in progress. That's the way human are." Very true QC That said; in the article Tom linked, the positive rate for tests is listed as 15% and the science is that that is a bad number for SD. Just my opinion here but the totally uncoordinated approach to controlling the virus in the US (each state on its own) means that as early growth places like NY are getting a hold on things the numbers are growing in the interior states like SD. This is not a good situation!
I get that the Sioux cannot just stop traffic on 212 but I would urge them to lock down their entrances and exits. Today we started a cautious national easing of the restrictions. We will see how that goes. Best to all.
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Post by yanmacca on May 13, 2020 13:48:33 GMT
Why can't they do what the majority of people have been doing and isolate themselves and just do an essential shop once a week along with social distancing. I am a key worker so I have to go out, so no chice for me, but if I knew that me and the missus could stay at home and still recieve 80% of our monthly wage without going through the front door then bring it on.
We go out together for a big shop once a week, we fill the fridge and freezer and put all fresh produce in a cold dark place and take them out of them stupid plastic bags, which causes them to sweat.
We don't have an option to say to the rest of Widnes, that the parish of Ditton is a no go area for anyone who does not live here and block Hale Road, which is the major road through Ditton.
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Post by quincannon on May 13, 2020 21:32:16 GMT
Why can't they Ian? They can't because they are a bunch of whining candy ass shitheads who can bear adversity, as long as it is the other guy and not them who must dealing with and bearing that adversity.
No one likes the measures that have been taken, most of which will remain in place for the foreseeable future, but over 80 percent of Americans feel that it is necessary and are determined to deal with it and the hardships that are entailed by it. That other 20 percent, the 20 percent that whines are the very ones who also thump their chests, telling all how we have a long history of standing up to adversity, because we own guns, Shit head whining hypocrites the lot of them.
Get your Christmas shopping done by catalog this year.
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