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Post by mlynn on Jul 7, 2017 23:15:30 GMT
I assume the twins would have been our parents cousins, unfortunately I can't remember which twin cousins belong on which side of the family and I will also assume that the rest of the group would rather we take our family reunion to email or chat. Now I will try to move this back to topic with an awkward segue on the importance of family support. Perhaps the worse aspect of the Indian Schools and other missionary schools is the removal of a child from the support of their family and all of the traditions of that family's culture. When you take that away from a child, they are lost with no way to define themselves and where they fit into the world. I understand that was part of the mission of those missionary schools, to take a child out of a 'heathen' culture and make them fit into a totally new society-but in the end you have an adult than can never fit entirely back to the family he left nor be totally accepted into the society he has been now trained for. I think this story touches me so much because I can identify with it. Mary can confirm that both my mom and my eldest Aunt spent their high school years in a Catholic boarding school in a town not too far away from the family farm while I believe that Mary's dad spent the same years in a different nearby town. It was done so they had the possibility to continue their education beyond the 8th grade. The local school ended with 8th grade and there was no such thing as busing back then, especially first with the depression then war time rationing. Our grandparents believed that education was so important that they made those sacrifices even though there were costs to everyone but it was for the greater good for their children. It was a financial hardship by having the 3 oldest children away from the farm as well as any educational expenses they might have had but it had to have be an emotional sacrifice. I know my mother's stories of her loneliness at being away from home and how she was made to feel her poverty in a school filled mostly with very well-to-do girls who at times could be very unkind. She never once complained but shared her stories with a touch of humor will emphasizing education. She understood why she was there and learned to make do on what she had with only occasionally wishing she had more. She never wasted a moment though when it came to her education and then her business success after that. I can't imagine how terrible it was for those poor children to be ripped unwilling from loving families and moved such a far distance perhaps never to see each other again and the pain it caused their families. I can only imagine the trauma of being taught that everything they learned from their parents was wrong and probably immoral.
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Post by mlynn on Jul 7, 2017 23:26:57 GMT
Mary I am too old and fat to be offended. We have different views but that is OK because we both love history especially the ACW. We will meet in the fall at Vicksburg and have fried catfish, okra, hush puppies, sliced onions and some fries. Washed down with sweet tea and in honor of Beth, if she will come, Key Lime Pie. Hows does that sound? Regards Dave Well, it sounds great except you can have the Catfish and keep the sugar out of the tea. Remember, I was born and raised in the North. lol Oh, and since I have a sister in FL, I spend a lot of time there so I will have the Key Lime Pie too.
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Post by Beth on Jul 8, 2017 0:27:25 GMT
I have to agree with Mary, no catfish or unsweet tea but there are plenty of other Southern foods I would love to try. I have often wondered if they need the excessive amount of sugar in teas in the south is to help deal with the excessive heat-like a very early Gatorade. I have no explanation for why everything is deep fat fried though perhaps it is because it doesn't involve heating an oven. Will you give us a guided tour of Shiloh?
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Post by mlynn on Jul 8, 2017 0:58:24 GMT
I have to agree with Mary, no catfish or unsweet tea but there are plenty of other Southern foods I would love to try. I have often wondered if they need the excessive amount of sugar in teas in the south is to help deal with the excessive heat-like a very early Gatorade. I have no explanation for why everything is deep fat fried though perhaps it is because it doesn't involve heating an oven. Will you give us a guided tour of Shiloh? I had meat pies in Louisiana on my last trip which were famous for that area. You could get them in Crayfish or regular (combination of beef and sausage). Needless to say I got the regular and loved it. But, originally I think they were made with a corn crust because the people of the plantations had a hard time getting wheat. Mine was a wheat flour crust. I also love grits with butter. Something we don't usually have up North.
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Post by dave on Jul 8, 2017 1:15:41 GMT
Everything tastes better fried! Tea was meant to be sweet but we make unsweet tea as well but we do not offer a slice of orange just lemon. I am sure we can find a restaurant that would offer a menu more suited to your tastes and I am perfectly willing to go anywhere y'all like. Since y'all have Iowa roots, I am sure that you both would eat beef and we do have steaks, prime rib and BBQ ribs. If there are some Northern delights I am unaware of let me know and I'll see if we can find some of them near by. However when we go to Shiloh we have to eat at Hagy's Catfish Hotel, no argument! I have listed their web site below and you just have to try the Lemon Rub pie as it is fantastic. The restaurant abuts the battlefield and much action took place there during the battle. I would love to visit Shiloh anytime y'all want. Beth in consideration of your health, I would suggest late October or November when it is not so hot and humid, plus without the foliage you can see many more monuments and memorials hidden far off the road. Vicksburg would also be much more pleasant that time of year. Regards Dave catfishhotel.com/
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Post by Beth on Jul 8, 2017 1:25:24 GMT
True about the grits, but we have hominy-though I suspect that is a southern import. I too love grits either with butter or cheese but I have heard that there is a disagreement on whether you should put sugar or butter on grits. I would love to try shrimp and grits but I was spoiled once with fresh shrimp right of the boat on a trip to New Orleans and the frozen is just not the same.
We will have to introduce Dave to the delights of a pork tenderloin sandwich or a even a Maid Rite and maybe the Amanas. Nothing like good German cooking to get you through cold winters or a long day working on the farm. Does your family eat the bean soup with the square noodles-which is actually based on a Slovenian recipe but I suspect Grandma adapted it for what was available locally.
See how every thread around here terminates with a food discussion?
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Post by mlynn on Jul 8, 2017 1:39:45 GMT
True about the grits, but we have hominy-though I suspect that is a southern import. I too love grits either with butter or cheese but I have heard that there is a disagreement on whether you should put sugar or butter on grits. I would love to try shrimp and grits but I was spoiled once with fresh shrimp right of the boat on a trip to New Orleans and the frozen is just not the same. We will have to introduce Dave to the delights of a pork tenderloin sandwich or a even a Maid Rite and maybe the Amanas. Nothing like good German cooking to get you through cold winters or a long day working on the farm. Does your family eat the bean soup with the square noodles-which is actually based on a Slovenian recipe but I suspect Grandma adapted it for what was available locally. See how every thread around here terminates with a food discussion? No on the bean soup but we eat a lot of sauerkraut. Mom has always made Grandma's poppy seed bread. I love German food. I was surprised that TX had a large Slavic population. There is a town near here called West that has awesome Czech food.
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Post by mlynn on Jul 8, 2017 1:53:22 GMT
Everything tastes better fried! Tea was meant to be sweet but we make unsweet tea as well but we do not offer a slice of orange just lemon. I am sure we can find a restaurant that would offer a menu more suited to your tastes and I am perfectly willing to go anywhere y'all like. Since y'all have Iowa roots, I am sure that you both would eat beef and we do have steaks, prime rib and BBQ ribs. If there are some Northern delights I am unaware of let me know and I'll see if we can find some of them near by. However when we go to Shiloh we have to eat at Hagy's Catfish Hotel, no argument! I have listed their web site below and you just have to try the Lemon Rub pie as it is fantastic. The restaurant abuts the battlefield and much action took place there during the battle. I would love to visit Shiloh anytime y'all want. Beth in consideration of your health, I would suggest late October or November when it is not so hot and humid, plus without the foliage you can see many more monuments and memorials hidden far off the road. Vicksburg would also be much more pleasant that time of year. Regards Dave catfishhotel.com/The Catfish Hotel looks interesting. It also looks like they have a big variety on their menu. Maybe we can get together sometime between my trip to NM and my trip to Iowa. Vicksburg is only a 6 hr drive from here. We could do a 3 or 4 day trip.
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Post by dave on Jul 8, 2017 2:13:32 GMT
We fix pork tenderloin quite often baking in the oven. Love sauerkraut especially with hot dogs cut up in it and with a little pepper sauce is wonderful. Love German food with all the different sausages. I love Navy Bean soup and hominy is good. Many people add butter to grits and some mix egg yolks in their grits. I personally have no experience with grits with sugar but mixing sugar and butter on rice is a common sight.
I sure hope y'all have some deserts that will rate up there with 'Nanner Pudding, Lemon Ice Box Pie, Peach Cobbler, Pecan Pie, Sweet 'Tater Pie or Carrot Cake to mention a few of my favorites.
Hopefully we can work out a trip for y'all to come East. Regards Dave
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Post by mlynn on Jul 8, 2017 2:44:29 GMT
We fix pork tenderloin quite often baking in the oven. Love sauerkraut especially with hot dogs cut up in it and with a little pepper sauce is wonderful. Love German food with all the different sausages. I love Navy Bean soup and hominy is good. Many people add butter to grits and some mix egg yolks in their grits. I personally have no experience with grits with sugar but mixing sugar and butter on rice is a common sight. I sure hope y'all have some deserts that will rate up there with 'Nanner Pudding, Lemon Ice Box Pie, Peach Cobbler, Pecan Pie, Sweet 'Tater Pie or Carrot Cake to mention a few of my favorites. Hopefully we can work out a trip for y'all to come East. Regards Dave Dave, Try browning some pork ribs and placing them in a baking dish with cubed potatoes and then, smother all of it with sauerkraut. Put foil over the top and bake until the potatoes are done. You will think you died and went to heaven. My Dad's favorite meal.
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Post by Beth on Jul 8, 2017 2:55:57 GMT
True about the grits, but we have hominy-though I suspect that is a southern import. I too love grits either with butter or cheese but I have heard that there is a disagreement on whether you should put sugar or butter on grits. I would love to try shrimp and grits but I was spoiled once with fresh shrimp right of the boat on a trip to New Orleans and the frozen is just not the same. We will have to introduce Dave to the delights of a pork tenderloin sandwich or a even a Maid Rite and maybe the Amanas. Nothing like good German cooking to get you through cold winters or a long day working on the farm. Does your family eat the bean soup with the square noodles-which is actually based on a Slovenian recipe but I suspect Grandma adapted it for what was available locally. See how every thread around here terminates with a food discussion? No on the bean soup but we eat a lot of sauerkraut. Mom has always made Grandma's poppy seed bread. I love German food. I was surprised that TX had a large Slavic population. There is a town near here called West that has awesome Czech food. I would love to stop at West sometime on the way up or down I35 but we never seem to be passing at the right time or are so tired we just want to get on down the road. I would also love to get to Fredericksburg someday which is know for its German heritage and food. (and everyone else will tell you about the National War in the Pacific Museum that also happens to be there. I love sauerkraut as well. Every time we go back home there are three things I want, a pork tenderloin, A&E cottage cheese and Amana sauerkraut. Unfortunately all three are sodium bombs so I will have to cut back on them in the future.
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Post by dave on Jul 8, 2017 3:04:05 GMT
"Dave, Try browning some pork ribs and placing them in a baking dish with cubed potatoes and then, smother all of it with sauerkraut. Put foil over the top and bake until the potatoes are done. You will think you died and went to heaven. My Dad's favorite meal. "
Recipe please. Sue and I would love to try that dish. Regards Dave
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Post by mlynn on Jul 8, 2017 13:56:17 GMT
"Dave, Try browning some pork ribs and placing them in a baking dish with cubed potatoes and then, smother all of it with sauerkraut. Put foil over the top and bake until the potatoes are done. You will think you died and went to heaven. My Dad's favorite meal. " Recipe please. Sue and I would love to try that dish. Regards Dave That isall there is to it. JUst brown the pork ribs with salt and pepper and then put them in a baking dish. I have found a square glass dish works best. Then peel some spuds and cut them up and put them on the ribs. Then, cover the whole thing with sauerkraut. Put foil over the dish and cook it until the potatoes are done . Make sure there is plenty of moisure with the sauerkraut. Easy peasy. Cook at 350
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Post by dave on Jul 8, 2017 20:40:57 GMT
Thank you and I will try that dish soon.
I hope you and Beth can arrange to visit Mississippi this fall so we can traipse around Vicksburg and Shiloh. Once we get to Vicksburg we are only 3 hours or so from the house where y'all will stay with us. I bet y'all will want to stay a day or so extra to visit Faulkner's house and Square Books*. Regards Dave *http://www.squarebooks.com/
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Post by mlynn on Jul 8, 2017 21:15:06 GMT
Thank you and I will try that dish soon. I hope you and Beth can arrange to visit Mississippi this fall so we can traipse around Vicksburg and Shiloh. Once we get to Vicksburg we are only 3 hours or so from the house where y'all will stay with us. I bet y'all will want to stay a day or so extra to visit Faulkner's house and Square Books*. Regards Dave *http://www.squarebooks.com/ Thanks for the invite. We will have to wait to see what happens when we get closer to November. It all sounds like fun.
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