Other NA narratives

[Beth]

Can anyone suggest other NA narratives that we can use to compare to JSIT?  I think it would be interested to in particularly look at Lakota narratives about the Ford B area.

[deadwoodgultch]

Beth,
This is a recent post of mine on the other board.

True battle flow is generally considered the line of march, which was originally south to north. Battle flow for the Cheyenne could be looked at another way, they had no true military doctrine as we know it and describe only what they would have seen at a given time, maybe their own personal approach to the battle or how they joined it. Example could be a hunting party approaching GAC from the northeast or a rather large blocking force in Ford D area that then became an attack force.

Colt's breakdown of the split in GAC's force makes sense from a tactical perspective and might cause me to give more credit than in the past. Outcome and time wise it makes little to no difference. The troopers died whether running north or south. They were struck down as in a buffalo stampede or hunt, as recently discussed elsewhere.

Dr. Thomas Marquis talked to many of the same Cheyenne as did JSIT and is a good source. Edward Curtis garnered much from Crow participants, but was dissuaded from publishing his work by Teddy Roosevelt. Those writings now reside at the Smithsonian, also interesting stuff.

Regards,
Tom

Read more: lbha.proboards.com/thread/5141/john-stands-timbers-account?page=2#ixzz3wPPCsWKL


I might also add George Bird Grinnell put out some interesting stuff from the Cheyenne perspective. The book itself is the "Fighting Cheyenne's."

Read more: lbha.proboards.com/thread/5141/john-stands-timbers-account?page=2#ixzz3wPPjs2IS

[Beth]

I am finding looking at the battle from the 'other side' extremely interesting--after all they were the surviving eye witnesses. I was wondering though what the Lakota perspective was since they had the first contact. I am sure that each area of contact would have a different perspective. I was wondering if we could gain more enlightenment to what happened at Ford B through NA statements, particularly the Lakota tribes camped the closest to the Ford.

THank you for the information about the Curtis work. I had read 'somewhere' about the work that TR had asked not to be pushed--perhaps in deference to Libby? but have never been able to find the information again. There is nothing more frustrating than knowing you read something that not remembering where. Are the papers available via an online link?

[deadwoodgultch]

laststand.com/product.php?productid=18324

[Beth]

Thanks!

[deadwoodgultch]

Beth,
you can get the Grinnell book," The Fighting Cheyenne's" on Kindle for 99cents!

[Beth]

thanks for the heads up! I 'marched' right over and ordered it.

[deadwoodgultch]

Beth,
Just saw, on Amazon, "A Warrior Who Fought Custer" by Thomas Marquis. Wooden Legs story as told to Marquis, it has been updated. The price $2.99, I read this in the past excellent, easy read. E-book.

Regards,
Tom

[yanmacca]

Beth here is a free book, I don't know how much data it contains about the Cheyenne version of events as I have yet to read it, I downloaded it last year and forgot all about it.

link 

Yan.

[Beth]

Thank guys! Someday I am going to have to put together a list of inexpensive ebooks available as recommendations especially for people who are just developing their interest in LBH. They are useful sources for information and at times the same sources that more modern writers use. Why read something that someone else has already selected the information THEY feel is important when you can read primary or secondary sources and form your own opinion?