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Post by Beth on Dec 13, 2015 21:09:55 GMT
Time Team used to be on one of the two History Channels here in the State. I particularly enjoyed the episode that tried and succeeded finding a shipyard dating back to Henry VIII. That is the type of show that should be on something called The History Channel, and not the junk they currently have. What! You don't consider the Curse of Oak Island or Ice Road Truckers to be history?
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Post by quincannon on Dec 13, 2015 21:38:05 GMT
YES I DO, BUT I WOULD THINK HOMICIDE HUNTER SHOULD BE ON THE DISNEY CHANNEL INSTEAD OF SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN REENACTORS.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Dec 14, 2015 14:53:41 GMT
YES I DO, BUT I WOULD THINK HOMICIDE HUNTER SHOULD BE ON THE DISNEY CHANNEL INSTEAD OF SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN REENACTORS. Not nice, and beneath you, but funny as hell.
Now time for true confessions, I have not read all that I could about the post 1983 digs at the LBH. I have also not spent time digesting and formulating my own conclusions regarding what has been written.
Regards, Tom
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Post by dave on Dec 14, 2015 17:17:27 GMT
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 14, 2015 19:38:05 GMT
You have to be careful just were you dig, an old friend of mine (who is no longer with us) used to make a deal with the landowner to split any cash made from finds 50-50.
Thanks to programs like Time Team I know just were to check, apparently ditches that line most farmers fields are a good place to search, over the years the combination of ploughing and rain would have washed any artefacts into these ditches.
Yan.
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Post by dave on Dec 15, 2015 4:31:44 GMT
Yan Please excuse my ignorance of British history but I do not believe there were many if any battles fought in England after the advent of the rifled musket like in the South of the US. In the Southern states where most battles were fought during the War between 1861-1865 many are surrounded by commercial and urban blight. Manassas, Petersburg, Fredricksburg, Franklin, Vicksburg, Lookout Mountain and Stones River. Most relic collectors work around the edges of National Parks, in private lands adjoining the parks and old camp sites. Some recovered items are very expensive depending on condition and style. Certain belt buckles, buttons, swords, bayonets and rifles. Many diggers are searching on the very property lines and occasionally on government lands. Shiloh for example has over 4,000 acres of National Park and is surrounded on 3 sides by private land owners. This along with the 20 plus miles of the roads between Shiloh and Corinth, MS has provided rich grounds for many collectors. Whereas Gettysburg was picked before the battle was over and then farmers for years plowed bodies and relics while planting. Antietam is another battlefield that is surrounded by privately owned land as well as pockets within the park itself. Have no idea why I wrote this screed? Regards Dave
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 15, 2015 11:28:44 GMT
You are correct Dave, the last pitched battle to be fought on British soil was Culloden (1746) and the last pitched battle to be fought on English soil was Sedgemoor (1685), I would guess that we got fed up of killing each other so we turned our attentions to our real enemy the French, but I reckon the last battle to be fought in Britain would be the Battle of Britain (1940).
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Dec 15, 2015 16:51:37 GMT
Ian, Speaking of buried history and battles fought on British soil, what can you tell me of Lady Margaret Douglas, her son Lord Darnley. Darnley was a consort to Mary Queen of Scotland. He was her cousin. I also think tis line may caused some of those last battles you referred to. You talk about intrigue, can't find a great deal. I think these two were responsible for King James and old Prince Charlie.
I am hoping you are the go to guy for all things England, Scotland, and Wales.
Regards, Tom
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 15, 2015 17:03:08 GMT
Tom do you mean Lady Margaret Douglas the countess of Lennox? She was born at Harbottle Castle in Northumberland (which would make her English) and served as lady in waiting to a number of Henry VIII wives. Lord Darnley got the chop but not after he sired eight kids to Mary Queen of Scots so he threw it about a bit.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Dec 15, 2015 17:25:24 GMT
Ian, Thank you, I'm going to attempt to find out how much impact Lady Douglas had on getting the Stuart line going. Been doing some reading about this Yanks heritage. Can trace the family to 1066, but run into some holes. Family in Maryland as early as mid 1600's got it figured out from then forward. Shropshire location, Anglo Saxons, early family name Trulove. Anyway just digging around. Back in the day a lot of Catholics in the family.
Regards, Tom
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 15, 2015 17:54:46 GMT
Have a look as this Tom, it seems a genuine enough site; link1066 eh' now that's impressive. Yan.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Dec 15, 2015 18:07:10 GMT
Thanks, again, Ian.
Regards, Tom
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Post by dave on Dec 15, 2015 18:49:51 GMT
You are correct Dave, the last pitched battle to be fought on British soil was Culloden (1746) and the last pitched battle to be fought on English soil was Sedgemoor (1685), I would guess that we got fed up of killing each other so we turned our attentions to our real enemy the French, but I reckon the last battle to be fought in Britain would be the Battle of Britain (1940). Yan Yan The article below shows how right you are regarding the French as the real enemy. Regards Dave www.sciencenews.org/article/6000-year-old-skeletons-french-pit-came-victims-violence
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 15, 2015 19:03:04 GMT
Pretty gruesome Dave, the English and the French have fought each other all over the world for hundreds of years, it makes the spat between the USA and Russia seem like a weekend affair, they have never forgotten how we defeated them in all the various wars we fought and even today when it goes to a vote over something to do with the European union you can bet that the French will veto anything Britain brings to the table.
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Post by dave on Dec 16, 2015 2:24:48 GMT
Yan One of the first books I ever read was Horatio Horblower series by CS Forester. The Richard Bolitho series also clearly showed the warfare 'tween France and y'all. As I got a little older I read Henry the V and learned more about the conflict. I realize the whole mess started in 1066 and has always been there. The reign of King Charles de Gaulle beginning in 1940 till he left office in 1969 certainly heated the old feelings up a bit. The French have all that cave art from 30,000 years ago when the Anglo Saxons were living above ground. Regards Dave
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