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Post by deadwoodgultch on Dec 9, 2015 11:22:32 GMT
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Post by Beth on Dec 9, 2015 20:11:58 GMT
Very interesting. I can understand the building over though it would have been very expensive to remove anything under ground and then rebuild the footings of another building so it makes sense to use what it there
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 9, 2015 20:34:53 GMT
Hi Tom, that’s the first I have heard of the find, doesn’t surprise me though our ancestors thought nothing of tearing stuff down even though it was of national significance, thank god for the National Trust, as around 120 years ago they began to save many old buildings, but it came too late for many in Widnes though, we had quite a few mansions houses built by wealthy business men who owned all the Chemical factories, they have all gone now and all of the old halls (Bold Hall used to look like something circa Downton Abbey), shame. link |
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Post by Beth on Dec 9, 2015 20:47:41 GMT
Sometimes it just isn't possible to save all the old buildings. They're expensive to maintain and frankly some aren't either historic or architecturally interesting--not to mention they could be very inconvenient to live in without whatever was the new modern convenience and very expensive to retrofit Still I think that for a long time the attitude was 'it's old, get rid of it--we need new, new, new!"
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Post by dave on Dec 9, 2015 20:58:41 GMT
Tom
We have similar weird historical circumstances here in the US. On the grounds of the Old Arsenal Penitentiary the four Lincoln assassination conspirators were executed by hanging and buried in unmarked graves next to the gallows until 1867. President Andrew Johnson released their remains to relatives and all were exhumed and relocated.
Today the site is covered by the tennis courts at Fort Lesley McNair in D.C.
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Dave
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Post by Beth on Dec 9, 2015 21:08:17 GMT
Heck--huge sections of San Francisco are built on old cemeteries. It was decided that the land was too valuable to waste it on the dead so they dug everyone up and moved them to Colma |
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Post by dave on Dec 10, 2015 1:37:46 GMT
Urban real estate is a finite item so many times there are discoveries made as new construction begins. NYC recently had 2 old burial chambers near Washington Square Park unearthed in new construction. Franklin, TN a couple of years ago had the body of an unknown soldier from the battle of Franklin in November 1864. Believe it or not the body was discovered as acreage is being purchased in Franklin and commercial buildings razed to return to the old battlefiled.
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Dave
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Dec 10, 2015 21:06:28 GMT
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Post by Beth on Dec 10, 2015 21:22:08 GMT
Cool! Maybe they'll find another King too if they keep digging up old Abbey sites--I did a quick check and Alfred may or may not be missing.
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Post by dave on Dec 11, 2015 0:23:16 GMT
"Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious summer by this sun of York" wasn't he found recently under a parking lot?
The English have a lot of history buried and they continually find what they did not know was missing.
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Dave
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 11, 2015 13:08:31 GMT
Do you guys ever see a TV show called "Time Team"? Well it was an English TV show about a group of archaeologists who were invited to various locations to dig up any places that they thought may contain archaeology, it was hosted by the actor Tony Robinson (who played Baldrick in Black Adder), well some TV station in the states copied the idea and in one episode they invited the English crew over to share a “dig site”. Now the English lot were surprised to find that their American cousins took longer to explore a site and that this was down to the fact that any archaeology found in the US was very close to the surface of the ground, were as in Britain they needed a digger to excavate a few feet of top soil before they reached anything of value. It is true that there could be many hordes still left to be found in Britain, as back in the period before the Romans came and later of course, many chieftains buried their gold and silver and if there village was attacked then no one usually survived to tell were the horde was buried, so occasionally you have finds like this; link |
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Post by Beth on Dec 11, 2015 21:07:30 GMT
how deep you have to dig in the US depends what you are looking for and where. Some of the NA sites can be quite old--Clovis sites can be over 10,000 years old. Of course if you are looking for treasure like gold--you might not find it there--though some points can be worth $1000 or more.
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 13, 2015 14:20:00 GMT
I always quite liked the idea of going around farmers fields (with permission of course) with a metal detector, over in Cheshire they have plenty of places which were active from the Romans through to the Normans, plus some Georgian and Victorian stuff is still valuable, but a Viking horde would be nice as the Danes were pretty active around here.
Yan.
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Post by quincannon on Dec 13, 2015 18:26:11 GMT
Time Team used to be on one of the two History Channels here in the State. I particularly enjoyed the episode that tried and succeeded finding a shipyard dating back to Henry VIII.
That is the type of show that should be on something called The History Channel, and not the junk they currently have.
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 13, 2015 18:56:19 GMT
The British Time Team crew payed a visit to the states in 1997, they went to St Marys city in Maryland to find early evidence of English settlers, they found the remains of the first fort built around mid 1600, and probably the first fort ever built in the colonies. Here is one of my favourite episodes when they went to gold beach (D-Day); linkI tried to get the St Marys episode but it was blocked, I just hope this one plays. Yan. |
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