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Post by yanmacca on Nov 9, 2015 18:53:44 GMT
Just been over there, I cannot remember the last time because it was so long ago and by the looks of it one of our flock is giving him a dig in the ribs.
Yan.
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Post by dave on Nov 9, 2015 20:54:41 GMT
I wanted to share a post made by dropin on the lunatic board it is in the Reno's "Charge" in Three Master's Theses thread: Regards Dave
keogh,
there you go again, cutting and pasting and deleting posts. Respond to it as I posted it or I will be more revealing and you won't enjoy that. Maybe I will contact the LBHA.
Regards,
dropin
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Post by dave on Nov 9, 2015 22:05:08 GMT
Dropin/Deadwood's post lasted about an hour and a half before being deleted by keogh. The freedom of expression seems to be lacking on that board. Regards Dave
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Post by Beth on Nov 9, 2015 23:02:24 GMT
Freedom of expression/speech has never existed on message boards Each board is governed by what the board owner(s) allow for discussion. Beyond that Proboard has a policy of what is and is not allowed for discussion on a message board.
Think of a message board as a private club gathered in the party room of a local gathering place. The group has its rules of what and how things can be discussed set by the club leader. The leader of the club has the ability to ask members to modify their behaviour to fit the rules, if they aren't playing by his rules, or leave the club, The leader also has the ability that if he wants, he can change or alter any member's conversation, because it's his/her club and he/she makes the rules--that's a message board. A good club leader understands that moderating conversations in his club is something that should be used carefully, especially if he wants his club to be viewed as credible.
The gathering place (Proboard) also has it's rules and if for any reason they no longer want to do business with the club, they are free to ask the club to depart--because the club president has signed a contract giving them that right. Say the meeting place is a popular family Pizzeria and they found out that a local Boylove club was holding it's monthly meeting. The pizzeria can tell the club to leave and the club would have no recourse but to leave because that it is the contract.
It's all in those 'terms of agreement' that everyone check to agree to when they register on sites BTW
Beth
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Post by dave on Nov 9, 2015 23:51:08 GMT
Beth Thank you for the lesson as to how a board operates and can be controlled by a moderator. Very interesting and informative as to how a keogh type of person can control all thought and comments to fit his or her perception of reality. Regards Dave
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Post by Beth on Nov 10, 2015 0:06:56 GMT
Beth Thank you for the lesson as to how a board operates and can be controlled by a moderator. Very interesting and informative as to how a keogh type of person can control all thought and comments to fit his or her perception of reality. Regards Dave Exactly. And a word of warning, not that I am saying it may be happening, but it is something I have heard about happening--it's not unheard of for board owners or sympathetic members to create and play alter ego personalities to give themselves 'group support' or apply peer pressure to someone who isn't playing by the rules. It also is not unheard of if one board who has a beef with another board, for members or owners to troll and cause problems on other boards that they feel they are competing with--sometimes to the point they cause utter chaos and discord or destruction.
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Post by yanmacca on Nov 10, 2015 11:28:47 GMT
It also is not unheard of if one board who has a beef with another board, for members or owners to troll and cause problems on other boards that they feel they are competing with--sometimes to the point they cause utter chaos and discord or destruction. That brings me nicely back to Mark Scarface, he singlehandedly destroyed the other board and only now is it getting back on its feet. Yan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 14:13:23 GMT
keogh is addicted to altering and deleting other people's posts for his own purposes and I don't think he can give it up. Beth is right that there is no real freedom of speech or expression on these boards, but there is a higher power to appeal to regarding the Rini board; the LBHA. He could be forced to give up his moderator privileges, take on other moderators, have an editorial/moderator policy implemented, or he might just take the board, change the name, and run away. There's no humbleness in the man and he can't be trusted to keep his word but he is good at willfully twisting logic and rhetoric in his own favour, especially if he gets to call the shots.
So I suppose this is as good of a place as any to re-post the original quotes from keogh about his prejudice against "infantry mindsets." I know that quite a few of my comments are repetitive, but I was trying to establish a pattern of behaviour. Some are more damning than others. If anyone wants part of the longer conversation I saved it all.
Per moderator request, the original post has been removed, if you'd like it, please PM.
Cheers,
conrad
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Post by quincannon on Nov 10, 2015 15:44:53 GMT
What more does anyone expect, from a defrocked junior high teacher that still thinks he can grade student papers, where the only correct answers are the ones that agree with him.
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Post by dave on Nov 10, 2015 16:21:09 GMT
Conrad Thank you for sharing that post again with us. It is sad that you were moved to write this post by the unfettered behavior of a demented individual Seeing the raving posts of this unsound mind causes one to regret that the LBHA has him running their board. The continual outpouring of spurious information and guidance has certainly reduced the quality of the LBHA board. A national organization should be monitoring the quality of its message board. Regards Dave
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Post by Beth on Nov 11, 2015 0:51:55 GMT
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Post by dave on Nov 11, 2015 0:55:05 GMT
Beth It seems obvious that many of us need to study how boards are operated and used. Regards Dave
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Post by Beth on Nov 11, 2015 1:15:14 GMT
I know that it was a mistake made innocently but please just don't do it again. Paraphrase, just don't copy and paste from one board to another. Unless you have the original poster's permission to share the information here of course.
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Post by azranger on Nov 11, 2015 12:03:24 GMT
Freedom of expression/speech has never existed on message boards Each board is governed by what the board owner(s) allow for discussion. Beyond that Proboard has a policy of what is and is not allowed for discussion on a message board. Think of a message board as a private club gathered in the party room of a local gathering place. The group has its rules of what and how things can be discussed set by the club leader. The leader of the club has the ability to ask members to modify their behaviour to fit the rules, if they aren't playing by his rules, or leave the club, The leader also has the ability that if he wants, he can change or alter any member's conversation, because it's his/her club and he/she makes the rules--that's a message board. A good club leader understands that moderating conversations in his club is something that should be used carefully, especially if he wants his club to be viewed as credible. The gathering place (Proboard) also has it's rules and if for any reason they no longer want to do business with the club, they are free to ask the club to depart--because the club president has signed a contract giving them that right. Say the meeting place is a popular family Pizzeria and they found out that a local Boylove club was holding it's monthly meeting. The pizzeria can tell the club to leave and the club would have no recourse but to leave because that it is the contract. It's all in those 'terms of agreement' that everyone check to agree to when they register on sites BTW Beth Beth that would work for the PM side of a board. There are limitations on the public view board where one can read for instance what dropin posted without being a member of the board. At one time Custerwest threatened a poster and that is crime in Arizona.
So if someone not a member copied a dropin post because they thought it was great then reviewed it again and it substantially changed there is no agreement to the terms of the board by a non-member.
Steve
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Post by carl on Nov 11, 2015 15:36:12 GMT
Too early to tell, but mindsets may be replaced by Professional Historians versus Amateur Historians. Be on the alert for examples.
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