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Aug 6, 2015 8:46:28 GMT
Post by mac on Aug 6, 2015 8:46:28 GMT
Order of battle
United States Army (Col. Nelson A. Miles in command)
5th U.S. Infantry Regiment[5] Company A Company C Company D Company E Company K Company B detachment Company H detachment 22nd U.S. Infantry Regiment Company E Company F
Lakota and Cheyenne (Crazy Horse and Two Moons)
war bands with approximately 500 warriors
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Aug 6, 2015 8:49:36 GMT
Post by mac on Aug 6, 2015 8:49:36 GMT
Battle
Miles marched out to the foothills of the Wolf Mountains, then set up a defensive perimeter on a ridge line. At 7:00 a.m., on January 8, Crazy Horse and Two Moons began a series of attacks on the U.S. soldiers. Frustrated by army firepower, they regrouped several times and tried again. Attempts to flank Miles' line also proved to be futile when Miles shifted his reserves to fill critical positions. Finally, Miles ordered an advance, which secured a vital ridge as artillery shells rained among the Indian positions. Crazy Horse withdrew as weather conditions deteriorated.
Any comments on this action? Cheers
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Aug 6, 2015 12:32:46 GMT
Post by yanmacca on Aug 6, 2015 12:32:46 GMT
Mac I was amazed to find how low the casualty count was after the dust settled, the Sioux said that three were killed, but an unknown number of wounded, the US Army had five killed and eight wounded. linkYan.
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Aug 6, 2015 13:28:49 GMT
Post by deadwoodgultch on Aug 6, 2015 13:28:49 GMT
mac, Nelson Appleton Miles, not your average officer, not a WP product. Began as a volunteer and built himself a complete career. A fine strategist, brilliant tactician, and became a consummate politician. He also knew how to work the press, knew what to put forth and when to shut them out. Can you say Ronald Reagan or Bill Belichick. Shame Patton never learned the politician part.
The man was bulldog as well, the following Fall he crushed the Nez Perce and kept them, in large part, from joining Sitting Bull in Canada. He salvaged what had been an inept chase by the US Army prior to his joining the campaign. Nine years later he relieved Crook in AZ and brought an end to the Apache wars, helped in no little part by Lt Gatewood.
Check out his work with heliographs while on the Yellowstone. Very creative.
Regards, Tom
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Aug 6, 2015 17:43:50 GMT
Post by quincannon on Aug 6, 2015 17:43:50 GMT
Miles at Wolf Mountain used what he had available effectively, and consistent with existing doctrine.
Generally speaking the opponent who uses what they have to the best effect wins, and that is harder in the doing than the saying.
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Post by mac on Aug 6, 2015 22:17:59 GMT
Miles is an interesting guy. I did find some Nez Perce stuff. They in themselves are a fascinating story. How significant is the relative exhaustion of the warriors at this time compared to at LBH? Or is the tactics of Miles the main factor? Cheers
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Aug 6, 2015 22:51:10 GMT
Post by deadwoodgultch on Aug 6, 2015 22:51:10 GMT
Miles is an interesting guy. I did find some Nez Perce stuff. They in themselves are a fascinating story. How significant is the relative exhaustion of the warriors at this time compared to at LBH? #2 Or is the tactics of Miles the main factor? #1Cheers We must remember the Nez Perce were exhausted long before this and had been let down by a number of their former allies. Miles brought this chapter to a close. He lost a large number of officers and other combatants, killed and wounded. Something I think you will find interesting, The Nez Perce selected officers above all others, look at the dead and wounded from the beginning of the campaign. You will be amazed.
regards, Tom
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Post by mac on Aug 8, 2015 12:44:41 GMT
I am amazed at that and how quickly they had adopted military manouvres and tactics. Cheers
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Aug 8, 2015 13:09:23 GMT
Post by yanmacca on Aug 8, 2015 13:09:23 GMT
I suppose leaderless men will break easier when pressurized, take out the officers and NCOs and moral drops like a stone, especially in hostile country, good tactics.
Yan.
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Aug 8, 2015 14:50:41 GMT
Post by deadwoodgultch on Aug 8, 2015 14:50:41 GMT
I am amazed at that and how quickly they had adopted military manouvres and tactics. Cheers There was, in fact, command and control exhibited with this tribe. Clearly delineated roles, with next man up principles.
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Apr 30, 2017 11:00:19 GMT
Post by deadwoodgultch on Apr 30, 2017 11:00:19 GMT
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May 1, 2017 10:13:35 GMT
Post by mac on May 1, 2017 10:13:35 GMT
No worries Tom! The Nez Perce are really interesting. Perhaps you could start a thread. Cheers
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May 1, 2017 21:20:28 GMT
Post by Beth on May 1, 2017 21:20:28 GMT
Nez Perce are interesting, please feel welcome to create a thread about them in the Native American section.
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