Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 1:33:51 GMT
BLUF: Not Recommended, but for 2.99 for the Kindle Version or 2.50 or so for a used paperback, an amusing read.
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SOLDIERS FALLING INTO CAMP The Battles at the Rosebud and the Little Bighorn The truth about what really happened at two of the most controversial battles in American History, and why.
Marshall, Joe; Lefthand, Fredrick; Kammen, Robert G..
Robert Kammen is apparently an enthusiastic amateur historian (but to be fair, that is what I am, too. Since I only have a BA in history, no MA and no PhD.) He has written several books, none of which were listed in my Kindle version of the book.
Joe Marshall was born on the Rosebud Sioux Indian Reservation, His family is predominantly Sicangu, with some Oglala lineage from his paternal grandfather. It was his maternal grandfather, however, who was the main teacher and greatest influence in the formative years of boyhood. Mr. Marshall’s Lakota name is Ohitiya Otanin, loosely translated as His Courage Is Known. He is a Native American Studies consultant and teacher for Central Wyoming College.
Frederick Voget Lefthand was born on the Crow Indian Reservation and has served as Coordinator of Adult Education and an adjunct faculty member at Little Big Horn College in Crow Agency, Montana. He was taught Crow History by Jack Little Nest whose grandfather was the father-in-law of Mitch Bouyer, the half-breed scout who died in the Battle. Lefthand is related to White Man Runs Him was one of Custer’s Crow scouts, and his great grandfather was Bird Tail that Rattles, an Oglala Sioux, who was captured by the Crows at six and grew up to be a Crow warrior. Lefthand identifies with Crazy Horse's band.
While there is undoubtedly truth in the book, the path of the knowledge is not usually provided back in time.
Like many books on the LBH, there appears to be made up dialog between participants, some of which were killed on the battlefield and left no written evidence behind. The authors have Martini being wounded, not his horse, someone drawing a map of the route from what seems to be the Crows Nest to the LBH, poor maps, and a lack of footnotes. It makes no apologies for being an oral history as passed down family lines, nor should it but it seems like many have been combined. It has a rather long narrative on the fight at the ford in Medicine Tail Coulee, does not seem to discuss Ford D, and touches on Reno's fight. It occured to me that one could take any fight from any of the three fords (Retreat Ford, Ford B, or Ford D) change where they took place, and they would fit any possible ford on the battlefield.
The book suffers from poor editing, has pieces of text juxtaposed in nonsensical ways, has mispellings, and a light bibliography. I was hoping for something more like John Stand's in Timber's work, but alas, it was not there. The poor editing may have hindered my understanding of the book. I saw an interview of two of the authors and they say that the battlefield bookstore elected not to carry it (at the time is was administered by a women Native American, whose tribe I forget, but she was not Sioux, Crow, Cheyanne, or Arikaree as I recall). If the hardcopy book was a poorly presented as the kindle version is, I can see why.
It does have usefulness in passing information from the Indian Point of View. Perhaps If I was better read and a trained historian, I would have gotten more out of it.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001865GEA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
SOLDIERS FALLING INTO CAMP The Battles at the Rosebud and the Little Bighorn The truth about what really happened at two of the most controversial battles in American History, and why.
Marshall, Joe; Lefthand, Fredrick; Kammen, Robert G..
Robert Kammen is apparently an enthusiastic amateur historian (but to be fair, that is what I am, too. Since I only have a BA in history, no MA and no PhD.) He has written several books, none of which were listed in my Kindle version of the book.
Joe Marshall was born on the Rosebud Sioux Indian Reservation, His family is predominantly Sicangu, with some Oglala lineage from his paternal grandfather. It was his maternal grandfather, however, who was the main teacher and greatest influence in the formative years of boyhood. Mr. Marshall’s Lakota name is Ohitiya Otanin, loosely translated as His Courage Is Known. He is a Native American Studies consultant and teacher for Central Wyoming College.
Frederick Voget Lefthand was born on the Crow Indian Reservation and has served as Coordinator of Adult Education and an adjunct faculty member at Little Big Horn College in Crow Agency, Montana. He was taught Crow History by Jack Little Nest whose grandfather was the father-in-law of Mitch Bouyer, the half-breed scout who died in the Battle. Lefthand is related to White Man Runs Him was one of Custer’s Crow scouts, and his great grandfather was Bird Tail that Rattles, an Oglala Sioux, who was captured by the Crows at six and grew up to be a Crow warrior. Lefthand identifies with Crazy Horse's band.
While there is undoubtedly truth in the book, the path of the knowledge is not usually provided back in time.
Like many books on the LBH, there appears to be made up dialog between participants, some of which were killed on the battlefield and left no written evidence behind. The authors have Martini being wounded, not his horse, someone drawing a map of the route from what seems to be the Crows Nest to the LBH, poor maps, and a lack of footnotes. It makes no apologies for being an oral history as passed down family lines, nor should it but it seems like many have been combined. It has a rather long narrative on the fight at the ford in Medicine Tail Coulee, does not seem to discuss Ford D, and touches on Reno's fight. It occured to me that one could take any fight from any of the three fords (Retreat Ford, Ford B, or Ford D) change where they took place, and they would fit any possible ford on the battlefield.
The book suffers from poor editing, has pieces of text juxtaposed in nonsensical ways, has mispellings, and a light bibliography. I was hoping for something more like John Stand's in Timber's work, but alas, it was not there. The poor editing may have hindered my understanding of the book. I saw an interview of two of the authors and they say that the battlefield bookstore elected not to carry it (at the time is was administered by a women Native American, whose tribe I forget, but she was not Sioux, Crow, Cheyanne, or Arikaree as I recall). If the hardcopy book was a poorly presented as the kindle version is, I can see why.
It does have usefulness in passing information from the Indian Point of View. Perhaps If I was better read and a trained historian, I would have gotten more out of it.
