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Post by Beth on Nov 5, 2015 23:34:22 GMT
Dave, To your last, we can only hope, but alas it was NY, and possibly a private school, with YUPPIES for parents. No it wasn't--unless the area is undergoing massive gentrification. Just some quick demographic enrollment is around 2100. 88% hispanic 8% Asian, 2% white 2% black
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Post by quincannon on Nov 5, 2015 23:38:30 GMT
Well, my bet is that he does time, NY or not. No matter which government, and what level of government it is, government does not like people who lie to them. It was a public school system, and they are run by governments at some level.
Yes Beth it does cut down on mobility.
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Post by Beth on Nov 6, 2015 0:12:59 GMT
And is think that it would best to end this line of the conversation there before the moderator has to intervene. I hear she is a big fan of "Lockup" and "Lockup Raw" so is well aware of things like "Convict Code."
Mindset though could be an interesting subject. Not so much the infantry vrs cavalry tripe but on a broader range like what was the mindset those who set Indian policy in 1876. Neither Sherman or Sheridan could have been considered people concern about the welfare of an indigenous population.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Nov 6, 2015 5:12:07 GMT
Dave, To your last, we can only hope, but alas it was NY, and possibly a private school, with YUPPIES for parents. No it wasn't--unless the area is undergoing massive gentrification. Just some quick demographic enrollment is around 2100. 88% hispanic 8% Asian, 2% white 2% black Beth, His first arrest was for actions at a private school. He applied to a school district this time. I was referring him getting smacked for his previous acts. This current issue was for falsification, not interaction. I still doubt that he gets time, unless local jail, brief. Suspended time and probation are what he will face.
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Nov 6, 2015 5:39:54 GMT
Mindset though could be an interesting subject. Not so much the infantry vrs cavalry tripe but on a broader range like what was the mindset those who set Indian policy in 1876. Neither Sherman or Sheridan could have been considered people concern about the welfare of an indigenous population. I don't think Grant truly wanted this campaign. Grant had even appointed Ely S. Parker as Commissioner of Indian Affairs, both advocated a peace policy and assimilation. I would not say he was pushed kicking and screaming into the 1876 campaign, but he was initially against it. Eighty five years later warned of the Military-Industrial complex and its gaining power. Not exactly the same thing, but close. Insert railroad and mining interests for industrial and you get the idea. Chuck, were you not just a year short of your 1st enlistment when Ike made his farewell speech?
We should probably move Dave's comment above from the criminal stuff, as I am not even sure the criminal stuff is germane to 1876.
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Post by quincannon on Nov 6, 2015 13:46:14 GMT
Tom: He was at Intermediate School 145 in Queens, a public school in the first incident.
This time the charge is the same and carries the same penalty as perjury, falsification of an application. Perjury is a crime looked upon very seriously by the legal system, because our system of laws in based upon people telling the truth
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Nov 6, 2015 17:00:35 GMT
All, I stand corrected, thank you Chuck. If Beth's stats are correct that may make it worse, how many of those people could afford a civil suit.
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Post by Beth on Nov 6, 2015 18:06:21 GMT
All, I stand corrected, thank you Chuck. If Beth's stats are correct that may make it worse, how many of those people could afford a civil suit. It's not so much as affording, more that it's a population that perhaps wouldn't want problems or know how to deal with the legal system. Here are the demographics by zip code. 11372
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Post by azranger on Nov 7, 2015 10:52:29 GMT
I don't advise people what to do and understand the positions taken for those not wanting to post on the other board. In my line of work we have to challenge those that refuse to obey the law. In my particular work with wildlife violations we have officers that only mingle with the good people who are the majority that hunt. I am not one of those. So I guess I am predisposed to not let the violators go unnoticed.
So the question --- Does the lbha board members know and condone? I suspect not. I think South Dakota should be a reckoning and have it aired out. The courts may take care of it before then. One concern is that there must be an alternative moderator to take over that is not cut from the same stock.
The Rini board was formed when there was a separation resulting in Diane taking the board away from the Little Big Horn Association. Without a nomination for moderator then it could be Mike Griffith or Robb for example.
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Post by azranger on Nov 7, 2015 11:12:33 GMT
I think it is important to understand that an Alford plea is still a conviction. It is used when a more serious crime is charged and there is a likelihood of conviction. The person taking an Alford plea alleges to be not guilty but believes there is a good chance he will be convicted of a more serious crime.
The problem with the Alford plea conviction is that is for a lesser charge and may obscure the nature of the original charges.
We used to see these in driving under the influence charges but the laws have been changed. Somehow running a stop light doesn't seem to be the same thing as drunk driving to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 15:57:39 GMT
After I was crippled, I finished my career in recruiting command.
In addition to running my own BN, I also handled every waiver request for the 18X program, where we recruited civilians directly to Special Forces. (our plan til then was to have folks demonstrate ability in the Army for at least 5 years before we let them apply).
I got a request to waive a guy for a minor criminal conviction: possession of burglary tools. But I am a suspicious bugger, so I asked for his phone number and called him. He was a weasel and all my Spiderman senses went off. So I called the local police, who handed me off to someone, not sure if cop or DA. The original charge was armed robbery. It should have been attempted murder as he tried to shoot someone, but had a jam.
I found myself furious at a criminal justice system that let this degenerate criminal walk from numerous crimes with no punishment. He had some 70 plus charges, with one conviction, for armed robbery, attempted murder etc. He was the enforcer for a drug gang.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 16:07:29 GMT
They know.
I have sent 2 letters and 5 emails. I have had phone conversations with three people.
The problem is very few people can match the enormous effort Rini puts into the boards. He is active several hours every day, with not hundreds, but thousands of posts every year. They have no one who can replace him.
Rini claims Pitsch is unreliable because he had consensual sex with a minor (17 years). Rini conducted nonconsensual sexual acts with a 12 year old and two 13 year olds. Yet he thinks himself superior to Pitsch.
The mindset argument is from a degenerate criminal who justifies his own behavior. Jeffrey Dahmer was lonely. He would bring in young men to have sex with, but they would leave. SO he would feel lonely. SO he killed them and kept their body parts in his fridge. When he felt lonely he would eat them. Problem solved. This is without a doubt the cavalry mindset developed by Rini.
How do you argue with a lunatic?
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Post by quincannon on Nov 7, 2015 17:33:42 GMT
The news this week is that the acting district attorney that first preferred the charges against Rini, is now the elected district attorney as of this past Tuesday. Judging from her statement at the time of his arrest, I seriously doubt if she intends to cut him any slack.
The penalty for this offense is up to four years in prison.
As I eluded to above, truth telling is the basis of our legal system. That also goes for documents that you authenticate with your signature that warn you that you sign stipulating that the contents of the document are true, and that the penalties for perjury apply. Just like you do when you sign your state or federal income tax forms.
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Post by Beth on Nov 7, 2015 18:43:33 GMT
You can't argue with a lunatic, nor can you ever expect such statements from a lunatic to make sense. It is the tragedy of the LBHA board. He has corrupted a place that it is meant to be a support to members and people interested in the board--and made it his own personal madhouse plus it has become his support system. Fortunately for him, unlike the real word, if he finds something on the board that he doesn't want in his world, he can go into posts and change the content-and truly not understand why people are upset having their posts changed.
In the real life, he found it did not work as well even when offering others a bribe to change their story to support his. Ironically though in the real world, he was able to walk away from his 'mess' and the latest arrest shows that because he wasn't severely corrected, he what he did wasn't wrong--only perhaps not nice, and with time a person can justify 'well I really was't convicted of anything" so any further restrictions on don't fit. I would love to know how he has been able even to tutor.
He has driven off posters who offer balance and sense and is left with who are allowed to run roughshod over anyone who has a difference of experience. I suspect that a number the current posters if told they were out of line in tone or manner --on both sides of the issues, it would settle down to the board it once. I've read through a number of old posts and at one time it was a place of very good information. It doesn't need a heavy handed moderator to get there again, just some of the absolute craziness reined in.
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Post by Beth on Nov 7, 2015 18:54:34 GMT
The news this week is that the acting district attorney that first preferred the charges against Rini, is now the elected district attorney as of this past Tuesday. Judging from her statement at the time of his arrest, I seriously doubt if she intends to cut him any slack. The penalty for this offense is up to four years in prison. As I eluded to above, truth telling is the basis of our legal system. That also goes for documents that you authenticate with your signature that warn you that you sign stipulating that the contents of the document are true, and that the penalties for perjury apply. Just like you do when you sign your state or federal income tax forms. Ironically this charge will be easier to prove because it won't rely on the testimony of children. I suspect that like many people who carefully select their victims, Rini chose his from a group who might have parents who were disinterested or not want to deal with the legal system. Children who were at risk and would not be considered the most 'truthful' and children who just wouldn't stand up for themselves--that never question authority and if told not to tell, wouldn't. They by their nature might make getting a conviction more difficult as far a the DA would be concern. The new charge thought is pretty much black and white though a smart attorney might try the 'my client didn't understand' which anyone who deals with Rini knows is a bunch of BS. You can say a lot of things about Rini but he is smarter than the average bear--maybe even the above average bear--but then again so are a lot of other people in prison. However being 'smart' as nothing to do with your moral compass.
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