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Post by herosrest on Mar 21, 2019 10:37:05 GMT
The U.S. military once wanted 12 carriers as part of a larger naval buildup. Its latest budget proposal would shrink that number to 10.  The Defense Department is seeking to—at least for now—shrink the carrier fleet, proposing that the USS Harry Truman be effectively decommissioned in 2024. This would mean that a multibillion-dollar, nuclear-powered super-carrier deployed in 2000 would be mothballed two decades before the end of its service life. Thought - Would a conflict between Superpowers involve tactical nuclear exchanges at sea or fall within Doomsday (Apocalypse) theory? |
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Mar 21, 2019 13:44:48 GMT
Space/satellite directed missiles could render all fleets vulnerable. The enemy always gets a vote. Can you say star wars?
Regards.
Tom
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Post by mac on Mar 21, 2019 21:05:56 GMT
I can!
I can also say budget....??
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Post by quincannon on Mar 22, 2019 16:16:08 GMT
There was once a kid that owned a baseball and bat, the only baseball and bat in the neighborhood. One day all the kids decided to play baseball, and the kid that owned the baseball and bat, said I want to play first base or I will go home taking my ball and bat with me.
This is similar to the proposal to decommission Truman, and bypass her midlife refuel and refit. If you don't give the Navy the money it needs we are going to do thus and so, and all Congress sees in thus and so is a loss of jobs, blah, blah, blah. Remember, they will decommission the air wing as well and that is a potential combined loss to a given community of eight to ten thousand jobs
It is extortion, and were it anyone else but the Navy doing it, it would be a crime.
Something else that must be considered. Not necessarily Star Wars but something close, that being ballistic missile coast artillery. If you can keep a carrier six hundred or more miles from your coast, you have greatly reduced that carriers effectiveness. China is counting on what they already have to make the China Sea into China's Private Lake. Everything old, coast artillery, is new again. When a multi million dollar missile, can render a multi billion dollar carrier into so much junk, well you get the idea.
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Post by herosrest on Mar 30, 2019 9:52:32 GMT
I bumped into this work Lion Six. I suspect that I will thoroughly enjoy it. South China Seas is a very interesting military problem and one which moves logic, rather than logistics, to the next level.  |
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Post by quincannon on Mar 30, 2019 17:39:15 GMT
As the old saw goes HR, amateurs study tactics, and professionals study logistics. The best of tactics are moot, unless the your logistics can get you there.
The China Sea is an immense problem, and one that may cause a complete rethinking of how sea power is applied, and the best means to apply it.
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Post by mac on Mar 31, 2019 10:29:12 GMT
Not just the China Sea. Here is a take on the One Belt One Road initiative which is China's latest national project. I wonder if the US trajectory is towards isolationism and where that leads? An introduction for those interested.
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Post by herosrest on Mar 31, 2019 12:49:31 GMT
Chinese trade once dominated the World and it looks as though this will occur again, given what has been achieved in the last 30-40 years. The Belt Roads are Socio-Economic partnerships (investments) similar to what was prototyped by investment in Africa's infrastructure and critical materials. China is developing spheres of influence through partnered investment and subsidy in some of the most corrupt places on Earth and there have been interesting scandals. The way of the World. I suspect that China will be building one Nimitz Class equivalent per annum from about 2030 onwards if they do not starve to death in the meantime. Lion Six was offered as significantly relative to the tip of the spear. China's domestic focus is to improve the lot of its migrant work force through a program of urbanisation which will move 400 million people into modern life and homes. Put another way, having achieved parity in GDP, they are now going about doubling it in a generation. Can it be done? Who knows. Clever li'l buggers. India is similarly poised with rocketing GDP although riven with ethnic and class unrest. GDP tablesHere are some Interesting numbers
Now, basic logistics - Inflation As populations grow, they need money and if money supply doesn't increase then there is less for the increasing population. There isn't really any way around that difficulty if economic growth is less that population growth. As this occurs across life span and generations - each generation adapts to being poorer by various means. That's the ball game which economists play with but never explain. It is the reason for inflation targets such as 2% pa. A friend of mine has this wonderful expression - 'firkin firked'. It's rather good, n'est pas? I haven't done the numbers recently but back in 2006 when Chinese numbers were beyond inscrutable and are worse now, they were adding the equivalent GDP of the UK, each year. That takes some getting your head around.  They were building a UK, every year.  |
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Post by herosrest on Mar 31, 2019 13:26:39 GMT
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Post by herosrest on Mar 31, 2019 17:05:25 GMT
Very well filmed 10 minutes ' Day at the Office' view on deck - operating USS Wasp F-35 's at sea 033119 - Tensions Esacalate |
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Post by herosrest on Mar 31, 2019 21:06:50 GMT
An oddity popped up Dick Bong at 27 kills.  |
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Post by herosrest on Apr 1, 2019 12:18:28 GMT
Large Chinese fleet deployed to Thitu in South Seas provocation. Chichi Jima Global overview. Chinese naval foces numbering over 200 vessels including Sam Pan IIIa with Wind Cheater technology and heavily armed Junk VIa Class with shrimp shoal domination equipment, have moved into the Spratley archipelago in a show of force and intelligence gathering ahead of the 2019 Rugby World Cup. China still finds it immense difficulty comprehending men and women playing with oddly shaped balls. Up and under.........  The 'bomb'Simple really. Just get stuck in! The World's fastest rugby player - Carlin Isles (USA) |
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Post by yanmacca on Apr 1, 2019 15:14:35 GMT
Keeping with the nautical theme!
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Post by yanmacca on Apr 1, 2019 15:19:09 GMT
HR, you should have sourced some RL big hits, they are all RU ones.
Does it make you feel like getting your rugby boots on and having a dig again like when you were young?
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Post by deadwoodgultch on Apr 2, 2019 0:02:49 GMT
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They were building a UK, every year. 
