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Post by rebcav on Dec 13, 2016 1:47:43 GMT
O.K..... In the spirit of Honesty,I'm gonna start this with a disclaimer. I am a huge fan/admirer/student of Major General Patrick Ronayne Cleburne(CSA). In my estimation he's one of the best Combat Commanders at the Division Level in the War Between The States.
That being said, 5 days ago I scored a copy of "Cleburne and His Command" by Captain Irving A Buck(CSA), who served as Major General Cleburne's Assistant Adjutant General from the early days of late 1861 until just before the Army of Tennessee"s fateful Nashville Campaign of Late 1864.
Seriously.....This is one of the most evocative, insightful, brutally honest and comprehensive book on the Operations of General Cleburne's Division from the confusion and bloodshed of Shiloh, the cold and brutal days at Stone's River, the missed opportunity at McLemore's Cove and the still near total victory spurred by General Cleburne's assault those next bloody few days in Tennessee.
Captain Buck puts the reader on the heights of Missionary Ridge, smack dab in the middle of the mayhem and confusion of the defeat at Lookout Mountain and the mistakes that caused it. You're marching along on the heartbreaking retreat to the outskirts of Atlanta, and you are THERE that harrowing, glorious day at Ringgold Gap.
The last few chapters are a bit hard to read because they encompass the missed opportunities at Spring Hill, and the Undeniable Valor and Incredible Waste of the next day at Franklin, Tennessee which ended in the death of a Brave and Honorable Man.
Incredibly documented and well footnoted (the kind of thing that book dorks like me TOTALLY go in for ) "Cleburne and His Command" by Captain Irving A. Buck(CSA) is far and away one of the BEST books I've read, and is a SO RAD addition to The Brinson Library.
I HIGHLY recommend this book for any student of history and especially any student of the War Between the States.
Respectfully Submitted,
Duane.
*Postscript: To give you guys a better picture of how awesome this book is....I usually take a book with me when I go to work (I usually have a book with me wherever I go)....We do 3 dives, score some teeth, and then we chill, have dinner, and everyone retires to their cabin because we're WORKED, fat and happy. (We have like 3 hours on the bottom each workday) Now usually this is when I crawl in my bunk, crack open a book and try to be constructive. I usually last like 10-20 pages before I crash. Last trip offshore, I took this book. I finished the book that night and was up 'till midnight.
That NEVER happens. This is ONE KILLER READ. *End postscript
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Post by dave on Dec 13, 2016 4:20:51 GMT
Duane
If you ever get over to the Memphis, TN area call me and I'l take you over to Cleburne's grave in West Helena, AR. It is a very smart looking monument and appropriate for a man of his renown.
We can swing by Nathan Bedford Forrest's grave in Memphis and then drive 3 hours over to Shiloh. You can follow in Cleburne's footsteps all over the battlefield and if you have never been to Shiloh you will be absolutely be amazed at the preservation of the park. Franklin is only a 2 hour drive from Shiloh.
So let me know when you are coming down this way and we will set things up.
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Dave
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Post by rebcav on Dec 13, 2016 14:12:52 GMT
Duane If you ever get over to the Memphis, TN area call me and I'l take you over to Cleburne's grave in West Helena, AR. It is a very smart looking monument and appropriate for a man of his renown. We can swing by Nathan Bedford Forrest's grave in Memphis and then drive 3 hours over to Shiloh. You can follow in Cleburne's footsteps all over the battlefield and if you have never been to Shiloh you will be absolutely be amazed at the preservation of the park. Franklin is only a 2 hour drive from Shiloh. So let me know when you are coming down this way and we will set things up. Regards Dave Sir: I am trying to put a trip together for like March or early April.....Go see Chickamauga, Franklin, Shiloh, and maybe even Vicksburg....I would LOVE to pay my respects at General Cleburne's Grave. Plus the guidance of a "local" and the opportunity to make a new friend would be AWESOME. I bet we could even find a place or two that sells beer! I need like six more GOOD trips offshore and I'll be way funded for a Springtime Roadtrip. God willing and the weather holds. Don't be surprised if some messages appear in your inbox. Have yourself a great day, Sir..... Sincerely, Duane |
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Post by dave on Dec 13, 2016 15:21:08 GMT
As they say on TV "Come On Down" to God's country and we will set up a trip to see the sights. I would really enjoy sharing with others what little I know as well as seeing the battlefields.
Vicksburg is not as well preserved as Shiloh but it does have the reconstructed "Cairo" with an excellent collection of artifacts discovered during her raising. The National Cemetery is one of the more beautiful ones in the nation as it is set alongside the river.
Send me a PM when you are ready and we will get the details worked out very quickly.
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Dave
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Post by quincannon on Dec 13, 2016 15:46:25 GMT
Good God, I though Duane's post was about Italian Food.
Chickamauga is one of the best. Been to Vicksburg and echo Dave's comments. Too much city.
I attribute Chickamauga's present state to the fact that while under War Department control until the NPS took it over after WWII the Chickamauga battlefield was a training area for adjacent Fort Oglethorp. In World War I many Regular Army regiments were activated, raised, and trained there, using the battlefield as a huge tent encampment. prior to deployment overseas. The place is as near pristine as you can get.
Same thing happened at Gettysburg on the field of Longstreet's third day attack. It was Camp Colt, commanded by some guy named Eisenhower.
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Post by yanmacca on Dec 13, 2016 18:15:11 GMT
As they say on TV "Come On Down" Dave, don't tell me that you watch the TV quiz show "the price is right" |
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Post by dave on Dec 13, 2016 22:56:57 GMT
Yan
My mother in law, God rest her soul, watched the Game Show channel all day long. So I have heard all the theme songs, catch words and hosts voice to last me a life time.
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Dave
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Post by dave on Dec 13, 2016 23:03:36 GMT
QC
You forgot to mention the Fuller Gun Collection next to the visitors center at Chickamauga National Park. This fabulous collection has guns from matchlocks to WW II with many weapons used during the War. A must visit if ever in the area.
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Dave
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Post by Beth on Dec 13, 2016 23:50:49 GMT
As they say on TV "Come On Down" to God's country and we will set up a trip to see the sights. I would really enjoy sharing with others what little I know as well as seeing the battlefields. Vicksburg is not as well preserved as Shiloh but it does have the reconstructed "Cairo" with an excellent collection of artifacts discovered during her raising. The National Cemetery is one of the more beautiful ones in the nation as it is set alongside the river. Send me a PM when you are ready and we will get the details worked out very quickly. Regards Dave I would so love to get to Shiloh. I visited Chickamauga, Lookout Mountain and Fort Donelson on a vacation years ago but at the time I did not know about my family connection to Shiloh or I would have rerouted our trip to go there. Hubby doesn't enjoy battlefields or historic sites so generally we agree on one battlefield per vacation but that one I snuck in a couple extras because we also went to Huntsville. |
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Post by quincannon on Dec 14, 2016 0:01:03 GMT
I don't like guns Dave. They hold little interest for me. They were in my former profession no more important to me than a screwdriver is to the mechanic, merely a tool of the trade with no collectable attraction.
My continuing interest in the military is strictly in organization, operations, and tactics.
I do not like things that are designed to kill people. May sound strange, but that's the way I am.
If you want to trip my collections trigger though, it centers on "builders" ship models, naval and maritime art. I seriously collect the latter, small but selective. |
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Post by dave on Dec 14, 2016 1:04:50 GMT
Deadwood
I have checked for Blair Dabney Jackson on Ancestry.com with no luck. If you ever get any more data I will be glad to try again.
QC
I understand perfectly your dislike of firearms and certainly respect it but the Fuller Collection is part of our heritage. The weapons displayed have been used in all the wars of this country from the Mexican War to WW II and are of historical value as well as for individual interests.
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Dave
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Post by colt45 on Dec 14, 2016 2:45:15 GMT
Unlike Chuck, I LOVE GUNS. Not so much for their intended purpose of killing, although I certainly love shooting, but for their beauty, mechanical simplicity overall, and innovations. I love shooting cowboy action with the two revolvers in my picture, plus my lever action rifle and side by side shotgun. And, kind of like Captain Pretend on the other board, I like to dress up at the matches as my favorite movie cowboy, The Man with No Name. Just like the other cowboy shooters, dressing up in late 1800's clothing and shooting classic weapons of the era is a ton of fun.
This means I will have to add a visit to the Fuller Collection to my bucket list.
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Post by dave on Dec 14, 2016 2:55:15 GMT
Colt you will spend hours looking and studying the collection. The estimated value must be astronomical!
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Post by colt45 on Dec 14, 2016 3:59:08 GMT
I have no doubt that the value is about equal to the national debt. I will have to visit the museum without my wife, who would not enjoy spending a day or two in there, reading about each weapon and looking at them for extended periods of time. Maybe there will be a mall nearby where I can have her go disappear for a day or two so I can soak everything there in and revel in it.
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Post by dave on Dec 14, 2016 4:22:32 GMT
Colt the battlefield is about 5 miles from Chattanooga where I went to school for 2 years. Lookout Mountain and Missionary Ridge are near by as well. There is a hidden gem inside Chattanooga near the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga campus. The Confederate Cemetery is a beautiful piece of greenery in the middle of town. I visited all the sights during my 2 years living there.
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Dave
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